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  • eek
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Clients don't have rate ranges, agents do.

    The rate range is merely how much the scum agent thinks he can add to his already massive markup.

    Always insist on the top rate, always.
    Um last 3 contracts have been fixed margin. In fact speaking to one of the smaller agencies I talk to recently he can't think of any end clientcos who haven't caught on to that logic yet...

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  • Avalonia
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    I always wonder if you have to be scum to be a pimp or the act of being a pimp makes you scum

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  • DimPrawn
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    Clients don't have rate ranges, agents do.

    The rate range is merely how much the scum agent thinks he can add to his already massive markup.

    Always insist on the top rate, always.

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  • Brussels Slumdog
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    Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
    The client wants to pay the lower end, and the agency needs to try and attract those that are looking for more than that in the hope they can get them to accept close to the lower end.

    One of agents most irritating questions is "what is the lowest you would accept?"
    I will accept X less for every day I can work from home.

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  • Brussels Slumdog
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    I look at rates this way.

    I'm not the most expensive and I'm happy with my rate. If I want to stay and others are more expensive chances are if budgets are cut and someone has to go it will be them not me..
    No .From the clientco perspective the agency is paying you and the others the same rate. The agent is paying you less.

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  • PurpleGorilla
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    Saw a role advertised between £450 and £650. This was whilst still permie. Agent asked me what rate to pitch - I said £650. Why not. Middle of no where, doing specialist work. Show me the money.. Never heard anymore.lol

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  • woohoo
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    Only lost one role because I was too expensive - the agent had someone who was willing to do the work cheaper. So if someone advertised a role as £400 - £500 I would always say £500.

    I had one direct client that asked me if I was flexible on my rate, I said I was I would be more than happy to increase my rate.

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  • JRCT
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    Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
    You beat yourself up over 15 quid a day? I can understand 100 or even 50 but 15?

    I always selected a rate I was comfortable with.
    I know. It was ridiculous. I think it was mainly because that contract was a dog. I hated it and it was just something else to add to the list.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
    You beat yourself up over 15 quid a day? I can understand 100 or even 50 but 15?

    I always selected a rate I was comfortable with.
    people do beat themselves up about the funniest things. It's like a splinter it festers the longer you have it.

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  • eek
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    I look at rates this way.

    I'm not the most expensive and I'm happy with my rate. If I want to stay and others are more expensive chances are if budgets are cut and someone has to go it will be them not me..

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  • BolshieBastard
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    Originally posted by JRCT View Post
    The one time I accepted a cut lower than the top end of the rate offered it was only £15 a day and I spent 6 months, every day winding myself up that I've been working here for X days and X * £15 is......

    I vowed to never sell myself short again.

    I've not yet been in the position where I've been benched for too long and I'm sure I'll have times when I have to rethink, but I think if you go for a role that's offering £400 - £500, then you go for £500. If you're willing to drop to £400, for what ever reason, then go in for roles that are offering £300 - £400. That's where the sacrifice is, isn't it?
    You beat yourself up over 15 quid a day? I can understand 100 or even 50 but 15?

    I always selected a rate I was comfortable with.

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  • FatLazyContractor
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Go the other way. Go in at the low end... and then when the contract is offered, and you've got the contact details of everyone in the clientco, tell the agent you want the higher rate - you can make up some story about having had a better offer if you like.
    What worked for me twice in the past was a story that what's actually expected of me is much more challenging than what was advertised.

    The roles were very technical and I puked a whole load of technical bollox on the agent who had no option but to bend!

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  • jmo21
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Go the other way. Go in at the low end... and then when the contract is offered, and you've got the contact details of everyone in the clientco, tell the agent you want the higher rate - you can make up some story about having had a better offer if you like.
    Quick way to mark yourself as a greedy contractor, piss off a client and an agent, and lose yourself an offer!

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    call me a cynic.
    Its so that they get those who are want the top end and they will offer the bottom end once interviewed.

    You apply thinking £500 pd I can handle that and its close by so expenses are low. You pass that on to the agent.

    You get the job and the agent says sorry they are only paying £300 a day.
    Go the other way. Go in at the low end... and then when the contract is offered, and you've got the contact details of everyone in the clientco, tell the agent you want the higher rate - you can make up some story about having had a better offer if you like.

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  • jmo21
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    The client wants to pay the lower end, and the agency needs to try and attract those that are looking for more than that in the hope they can get them to accept close to the lower end.

    One of agents most irritating questions is "what is the lowest you would accept?"

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