Reply to: Panorama: Battle for British Islam

[SueEllen]

The panaroma was appalling at best. It is heartening to see people staring to realise there are different groups of Muslims and you can't lump them all together. On the other hand the programme was working to the narrative of terrorism by terrorising people into thinking there are millions out there waiting to chop their head off. Why the bbc never mentions the main funder of the hateful ideology is obvious....

We need to sell our weapons to someone.....

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

The panaroma was appalling at best. It is heartening to see people staring to realise there are different groups of Muslims and you can't lump them all together. On the other hand the programme was working to the narrative of terrorism by terrorising people into thinking there are millions out there waiting to chop their head off. Why the bbc never mentions the main funder of the hateful ideology is obvious....

[DaveB]

I struggle to understand how.

Pointing and laughing hysterically in your case.

[FatLazyContractor]

The males don't have it all their own way. The female theologian, Mary of Poppins wrote
'Each time we Houri out, we will be a vigin and we will soften the penises of the elected, by gum, and the erected elected will have appetising scrotums'

I struggle to understand how.

[DodgyAgent]

The males don't have it all their own way. The female theologian, Mary of Poppins wrote
'Each time we Houri out, we will be a vigin and we will soften the penises of the elected, by gum, and the erected elected will have appetising scrotums'

[EternalOptimist]

Virgins? What virgins? | Books | The Guardian

Modern apologists of Islam try to downplay the evident materialism and sexual implications of such descriptions, but, as the Encyclopaedia of Islam says, even orthodox Muslim theologians such as al Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and Al-Ash'ari (died 935 CE) have "admitted sensual pleasures into paradise". The sensual pleasures are graphically elaborated by Al-Suyuti (died 1505 ), Koranic commentator and polymath. He wrote: "Each time we sleep with a houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [ie Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetising vaginas."

The males don't have it all their own way. The female theologian, Mary of Poppins wrote
'Each time we Houri out, we will be a vigin and we will soften the penises of the elected, by gum, and the erected elected will have appetising scrotums'

[Jubber]

Easy - put me off my lunch

[DodgyAgent]

http://www.theguardian.com/books/200...uardianreview5

Modern apologists of Islam try to downplay the evident materialism and sexual implications of such descriptions, but, as the Encyclopaedia of Islam says, even orthodox Muslim theologians such as al Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and Al-Ash'ari (died 935 CE) have "admitted sensual pleasures into paradise". The sensual pleasures are graphically elaborated by Al-Suyuti (died 1505 ), Koranic commentator and polymath. He wrote: "Each time we sleep with a houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [ie Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetising vaginas."

[d000hg]

70 virgins seems a bit pointless. Aside from the allure of virgins being a bit weird in the first place, 70 virgins over the course of eternity isn't very many at all.

[VectraMan]

It is apparently 72 virgins and 70 wives.

That's virgin on the ridiculous.

[GlenW]

It is apparently 72 virgins and 70 wives. I couldn't think of anything worse.

Virgins? What virgins? | Books | The Guardian

So the virgins don't know what to do and the wives won't let you show them?
That's Hell that is!

[DodgyAgent]

It is apparently 72 virgins and 70 wives. I couldn't think of anything worse.

Virgins? What virgins? | Books | The Guardian

[xoggoth]

The reason that Muslim countries are all totalitarian impoverished regimes is because this state of affairs is ingrained in their culture.

Good article on that here:

Muslims must shed their narrative of grievance - Telegraph

One reason is poor education, not simply exclusion of girls but emphasis on teaching Islamic issues instead of more useful skills. Maybe also, if you ban any questioning in one area, you may be stifling the ability to think independently in others. Lack of progress in middle ages Europe may illustrate this too.

[DodgyAgent]

The chance of one could persuade me to do some terrible things, I may even consider a night out in Sunderland.

You won't find any there

[GlenW]

I think you will find it is 70 virgins

The chance of one could persuade me to do some terrible things, I may even consider a night out in Sunderland.