Let children start work after primary school?

[BrilloPad]

A good one can calculate the density, velocity and trajectory of the tulip, the rotation of the fan and can then take up a sheltered position accordingly.

I have noticed that alot of physics departments at universities are in tall towers. Presumably to compensate for lack of penis size.

[barrydidit]

wtf does physics have to do with being a pm?)

A good one can calculate the density, velocity and trajectory of the tulip, the rotation of the fan and can then take up a sheltered position accordingly.

[BrilloPad]

If it was up to me I'd be sending the ghastly little buggers up chimneys as soon as they were out of nappies.

More seriously

You were going so well there!

[BrilloPad]

Problems are that if you are middle class and your offspring do not go to uni then often others will look down their nose at you.

I look down my nose at anyone with a media studies degree.

[original PM]

If it was up to me I'd be sending the ghastly little buggers up chimneys as soon as they were out of nappies.

More seriously I think we need to lose this daft idea that higher education is a right, given that far too many do not benefit either themselves or the rest of us. Increasing longevity, with people drawing pensions for longer, is always sited as a problem but so also is the fact that many start paying for those pensions years later than they used to.

Maybe kids leaving school at 14 or 15 and furthering themselves via work is a better idea. Bring in a reduction in employer NI for those companies who provide good in-work training. The money saved on paying so many student fees to no good effect could also allow a return of greater subsidies for those with real potential who are doing courses the UK needs.

Problems are that if you are middle class and your offspring do not go to uni then often others will look down their nose at you.

Also unless a graduate does on going study by the time they are 30 they will have forgotten most of what they learned and in some cases what they learned is now obsolete.

So unless a job actually needs a degree then employers should not ask for one ( see some PM jobs asking for a 2:1 in a science degree - wtf does physics have to do with being a pm?)

[xoggoth]

If it was up to me I'd be sending the ghastly little buggers up chimneys as soon as they were out of nappies.

More seriously I think we need to lose this daft idea that higher education is a right, given that far too many do not benefit either themselves or the rest of us. Increasing longevity, with people drawing pensions for longer, is always cited as a problem but so also is the fact that many start paying for those pensions years later than they used to.

Maybe kids leaving school at 14 or 15 and furthering themselves via work is a better idea. Bring in a reduction in employer NI for those companies who provide good in-work training. The money saved on paying so many student fees to no good effect could also allow a return of greater subsidies for those with real potential who are doing courses the UK needs.

[SueEllen]

Just because you find even the most basic human-human interaction challenging doesn't mean this is normal.

He's thinking of John Lewis customer service compared to that of Tescos.

Tescos could hire 11 year olds to do their customer service and the level of service would increase, there as at John Lewis it would decrease.

[d000hg]

I also must add that the John Lewis chairman is way out of touch with reality.

Even the most menial of shop floor jobs which requires customer interactions can be a lot more complex than you would expect.

Just because you find even the most basic human-human interaction challenging doesn't mean this is normal.

[original PM]

I also must add that the John Lewis chairman is way out of touch with reality.

Even the most menial of shop floor jobs which requires customer interactions can be a lot more complex than you would expect.

[vetran]

well make up your mind, one minute they are having to hire from Mars because no one in the EU has the skills (i.e. will work cheap enough) and next an intelligent child can do the jobs.

[original PM]

shame most of the mouth breathers which leave school at 16 only make the level of a ten year old

[DiscoStu]

Guess it explains how SY01's found work.

[BrilloPad]

BBC News - John Lewis chairman: UK workforce needs a step change

More than a fifth of UK jobs only require the educational level of an 11-year-old, the chairman of the John Lewis Partnership has highlighted.