Reply to: The Matrix

[NotAllThere]

Er... yes!

[Dark Black]

I did say "for a given value of proper"



Blade Runner, Alien, Silent Running, Quatermass and the Pit - proper
Star Trek, Aliens and sequels - not proper. Great fun, but not proper.

So in effect then, your definition of "proper" equates to "cult", the rest being "sci-fi for the masses" ?

I can see that

[Dark Black]

Hardware!

We have a winner!

You Sir, win an all expenses paid trip to the Zone

(don't come back without some random-looking pieces of mechanoid )

[Bunk]

Interesting.. define "proper" SF?

My collection includes classics such as.. Blade Runner, Alien (+ sequels), Silent Running, SpaceBalls (kidding.. really kidding ), Quatermass and the Pit, random Star Trek etc..

It's all down to personal taste really isn't it?

Bonus points if anyone identifies the movie the chap in my avatar was from

Hardware!

[NotAllThere]

I did say "for a given value of proper"

My collection includes classics such as.. Blade Runner, Alien (+ sequels), Silent Running, SpaceBalls (kidding.. really kidding ), Quatermass and the Pit, random Star Trek etc..

Blade Runner, Alien, Silent Running, Quatermass and the Pit - proper
Star Trek, Aliens and sequels - not proper. Great fun, but not proper.

[Dark Black]

Yeah - it shows you don't appreciate good SF. Seriously, I've often seen that when the general public don't like a sci-fi film, it's because it's proper sci-fi, not soap or cowboys or a love-story set in space. For a given value of "proper" of course.

Interesting.. define "proper" SF?

My collection includes classics such as.. Blade Runner, Alien (+ sequels), Silent Running, SpaceBalls (kidding.. really kidding ), Quatermass and the Pit, random Star Trek etc..

It's all down to personal taste really isn't it?

Bonus points if anyone identifies the movie the chap in my avatar was from

[original PM]

We did go down the route of kicking a rock and saying I refute it thus but then when I told her actually we cannot know she went into a tail spin...

was quite funny really!

[NotAllThere]

although I might also add that after watching the first one with my daughter she now has existential issue as to whether she really exists.

Just tell her that she doesn't, but it's important she doesn't let anyone else know.

[Bunk]

although I might also add that after watching the first one with my daughter she now has existential issue as to whether she really exists.

Good, that shows she's thinking. Give her some Plato now.

[d000hg]

I thought the first one was really good. A good match of the action inside the matrix with the slo-mo bullet-time and wire-fighting etc, and the stuff outside in the real world which frames those bits. The second one was still ok but was starting to focus more on the real world than the matrix, and the third continued that further, and that was the problem for me, those bits just weren't as interesting as the matrix parts.

I actually liked seeing into the "real world" a bit, right up until they jumped the shark with "The powers of The One extend beyond the Matrix" at the very end of film 2.

[original PM]

although I might also add that after watching the first one with my daughter she now has existential issue as to whether she really exists.

[original PM]

agree - I have them all on bluray - sound and visuals are quality

the first is a complete classic and essential watching

the other two are okay films but are not as groundbreaking

[vetran]

I thought the first one was really good. A good match of the action inside the matrix with the slo-mo bullet-time and wire-fighting etc, and the stuff outside in the real world which frames those bits. The second one was still ok but was starting to focus more on the real world than the matrix, and the third continued that further, and that was the problem for me, those bits just weren't as interesting as the matrix parts.

+1

[Bunk]

I thought the first one was really good. A good match of the action inside the matrix with the slo-mo bullet-time and wire-fighting etc, and the stuff outside in the real world which frames those bits. The second one was still ok but was starting to focus more on the real world than the matrix, and the third continued that further, and that was the problem for me, those bits just weren't as interesting as the matrix parts.

[NotAllThere]

Back OT ...

The original Matrix film was a brilliant as the sequels were poor. It promised so much but in the end neither the second or third films got anywhere close to the original. It was a true cult classic - and always good to watch with decent surround (esp. the Morpheus rescue sequence )

Very telling that I only own the first on disk.

Yeah - it shows you don't appreciate good SF. Seriously, I've often seen that when the general public don't like a sci-fi film, it's because it's proper sci-fi, not soap or cowboys or a love-story set in space. For a given value of "proper" of course.