Reply to: The queen's been watching me wank :s

[Sysman]

Well the built in AV is very obviously crap then, isn't it?

They are all a bit crap really. Today's malware packs and repacks itself to avoid signature based detection systems, and the antivirus folks are losing the race to keep up.

Symantec Executive Says Antivirus Is Dead

[SpontaneousOrder]

Are you sure you can be trusted with a computer?

I though - oh, bootcamp. That's cool. A handy utility to install windows on my iMac.

Ok, i need a bootable windows USB drive.
Ok, so how do I get an image for the copy of windows I've just purchased the product key for?
Ok... I'll download the free trial of parallels and use the free developers i.e. 11 windows 7 image, choose install windows using the product key, from the microsoft website --> choose ISO --> chug chug chug... viola! windows 8.1 iso on a thumb drive.
Back to OSX, use bootcamp to create bootable usb --> choose ISO... "sorry, this iso is for the 32 bit version"

Download 64 bit windows 7 iso, create new VM, create new win 8.1 iso (which will be 64 bit now i'm using a 64 bit machine to create it). Repeat process.

Then the rest of the shenanigans.

So to answer your question.... perhaps not.

[KentPhilip]

Are you Prince Philip?

Or Kent Philip?

[Churchill]

Yeah, I did that (again! - first time I used the wrong iso and couldn't activate the install. and then I formatted the bootcamp partition via the windows install instead of using bootcamp assistant, which fubarred my fusion drive So reinstalled osx, then windows again), thanks.

I put avg on, and installed all of the windows updates (I'd assumed that they were in the first time around, but it looks as though 'automatically install' means it saves them up for when you shutdown).

So what's the difference between an antivirus & malwarebytes? I steered away from 'too much' protection when I ran windows before because it turned my monster PC into a lumbering sloth. I never got a noticable issue in years running just the built in firewall, and I used spybot search & destroy for my parents who managed to get a virus every other week.

Are you sure you can be trusted with a computer?

[SpontaneousOrder]

Well the tosser (by his own admission) has been running mac stuff without AV, so that level of moronic stupidity is to be expected.

Have you never applied patches to your macbook? There are a few available - or are you really such a gullible idiot that you believe the mantra "Macs don't get viruses"? Running unpatched systems of any OS flavour is monumentally cretinous and entirely inexcusable for anyone who works in the IT industry. I hope you never work in any kind of network administrative capacity.

I was talking to the IT security guys at client site on Friday- they say the only way to secure a webcam (be it on a linux, mac or windows machine) is to put a sticker over it.

What's patching go to do with anything?

[SpontaneousOrder]

So scrap the partition, start again, and make sure you have a decent anti-virus in place before you do anything. Make sure you install malwarebytes early as well.

Yeah, I did that (again! - first time I used the wrong iso and couldn't activate the install. and then I formatted the bootcamp partition via the windows install instead of using bootcamp assistant, which fubarred my fusion drive So reinstalled osx, then windows again), thanks.

I put avg on, and installed all of the windows updates (I'd assumed that they were in the first time around, but it looks as though 'automatically install' means it saves them up for when you shutdown).

So what's the difference between an antivirus & malwarebytes? I steered away from 'too much' protection when I ran windows before because it turned my monster PC into a lumbering sloth. I never got a noticable issue in years running just the built in firewall, and I used spybot search & destroy for my parents who managed to get a virus every other week.

[Unix]

Yesterday I put windows 8.1 on bootcamp, and spent a lot of the day downloading games from my steam account, and going on a massive porn binge, clicking links left and right as I almost tore the head off.

FTFY

[TheFaQQer]

Yesterday I put windows 8.1 on bootcamp, and spent a lot of the day downloading games from my steam account, etc.

So scrap the partition, start again, and make sure you have a decent anti-virus in place before you do anything. Make sure you install malwarebytes early as well.

[DodgyAgent]

[BrilloPad]

Are you Prince Philip?

[cojak]

Well the built in AV is very obviously crap then, isn't it?

[Sysman]

Well the tosser (by his own admission) has been running mac stuff without AV, so that level of moronic stupidity is to be expected.

Have you never applied patches to your macbook? There are a few available - or are you really such a gullible idiot that you believe the mantra "Macs don't get viruses"? Running unpatched systems of any OS flavour is monumentally cretinous and entirely inexcusable for anyone who works in the IT industry. I hope you never work in any kind of network administrative capacity.

Who's trolling now?

If he's installed Windows via BootCamp it will have created a nice shiny new partition to put it in.

Windows 8.1 is supposed to come with its own builtin antivirus.

I was talking to the IT security guys at client site on Friday- they say the only way to secure a webcam (be it on a linux, mac or windows machine) is to put a sticker over it.

Aw, bless.

[NotAllThere]

So, i've been running my macbook pro problem free for nearly 2 years without any antivirus etc, my iMac for about a year...

You install Windows without installing an antivirus immediately afterward?

Well the tosser (by his own admission) has been running mac stuff without AV, so that level of moronic stupidity is to be expected.

Have you never applied patches to your macbook? There are a few available - or are you really such a gullible idiot that you believe the mantra "Macs don't get viruses"? Running unpatched systems of any OS flavour is monumentally cretinous and entirely inexcusable for anyone who works in the IT industry. I hope you never work in any kind of network administrative capacity.

I was talking to the IT security guys at client site on Friday- they say the only way to secure a webcam (be it on a linux, mac or windows machine) is to put a sticker over it.

[xoggoth]

If a virus accessed my webcam it would just show pictures of nice little birdies on the feeder.

[SpontaneousOrder]

I suspect that a the relevant bit...

Also, according to the current SANS survival time stats, it takes between 2 and 4 hours for an un-patched unprotect Windows system to be compromised. If you didn't download all the latest security updates and install AV straight way, you are going to get owned sooner rather than later.

https://isc.sans.edu/survivaltime.html

Wow, times have changed. Last time I used windows I didn't have to worry about anti-virus unless I was in the habit of downloading 'codec's to play naughty vids. As it was a proper mission just to get it installed on bootcamp, downloading more junk wasn't top of my immediate list.