Reply to: 200 years.

[Sysman]

Oops.

qh

Teehee.

The Yanks take themselves too seriously at times.

[TheFaQQer]

"In the rockets red glare"

That was the last time the American flag had the same number of stars as stripes.

[quackhandle]

Oops.

qh

[quackhandle]

"Status Quo Ante Bellum".

Same state as existed before the war. (Hence why I thought it was odd, both sides considered it a victory for them, but nothing really changed.)

qh

[SpontaneousOrder]

I feel the bile rising.. to equate an Act of War (for which the Americans had declared War on GB some 2 years earlier ) with the same "without warning" sneaky underhanded attacks such as Pearl Harbour or 9/11 shows American history manipulation at its worst

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Pearl Harbour was hardly any more of a surprise. FDR had deliberately baited Japan for a long time, precisely for the purpose of inducing them into starting a war.

"American history manipulation"
"sneaky underhanded"

[Troll]

A CIA analysis of "…the causes and consequences of
the American failure to anticipate, perceive, and prepare for the British attack": https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...4-June2014.pdf (PDF)

I feel the bile rising.. to equate an Act of War (for which the Americans had declared War on GB some 2 years earlier ) with the same "without warning" sneaky underhanded attacks such as Pearl Harbour or 9/11 shows American history manipulation at its worst

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[EternalOptimist]

A CIA analysis of "…the causes and consequences of
the American failure to anticipate, perceive, and prepare for the British attack": https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...4-June2014.pdf (PDF)

Very interesting.

At least they got a good national anthem out of the Brits though

[xoggoth]

If everybody had just sat down with a nice cup of tea, I'm sure it could all have been sorted out peacefully

Glass of vodka would have worked.

[NickFitz]

A CIA analysis of "…the causes and consequences of
the American failure to anticipate, perceive, and prepare for the British attack": https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...4-June2014.pdf (PDF)

[EternalOptimist]

If everybody had just sat down with a nice cup of tea, I'm sure it could all have been sorted out peacefully.

Oh, wait…

lol.

wrong war.

[EternalOptimist]

Bit of an odd one the War of 1812 (considering it went on for a bit longer).



qh

you have to put it in context.


the Napoleonic wars were raging in Europe. China and Japan were not powers.
The old order was changing, nations and empires were falling, countries and boundaries were being redrawn.
Britain, the enemy, was under the cosh. The US was getting strong and Canada was a ripe plum.

The US had paved the way with new infantry tactics in the war of independance, nobody could beat their light infantry tactics, and they had planty of them. So they attacked


and got their butts kicked all the way back down south, till we burned their capitol.


Interestingly. At Waterloo(1815), there were a few 'American' brigades

these were British infantry who were highly trained, then fought the Americans. so they were experienced as well. They performed even better than Wellington peninsular veterans

[NickFitz]

If everybody had just sat down with a nice cup of tea, I'm sure it could all have been sorted out peacefully.

Oh, wait…

[quackhandle]

Bit of an odd one the War of 1812 (considering it went on for a bit longer).



qh

[EternalOptimist]

Oh say can you see


make you damned proud to be British doesnt it

[Sysman]

Sort of sandy since Wiki reckons it's made out of sandstone.

I once came across a pub leaflet (in Yorkshire) that claimed the White House steps had come from a nearby quarry.

York stone no less.

I always thought it was BS for the tourists but mebbe not.