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Previously on "World war 3 now imminent"

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  • AtW
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    Map from Polish newspaper -



    Distances very short so even self liquidation on interceptor would not reverse course backwards into Ukraine

    Obviously that’s why Russia sent cruise missiles to attack that power station on the border - they must have flown alongside Polish border to get there

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by _V_ View Post
    Another Russian shill / tulipbot.
    Useful idiot as Lenin correctly observed

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by hugebrain View Post
    I’m not disputing whose missile it was, just whether it was accidental.
    If it’s Ukrainian missile (which is easy to establish since it’s on Polish territory) then regardless whether it was intentional or not - that won’t trigger Article 5, so pointless for Ukraine to waste ine of a few remaining S-300 missiles that are in very short supply.

    The reality is that Russian cruises missile (or more than one) aimed at power generation plant near Polish border, they could only be shot down by shooting from Ukraine territory in direction of Poland and S-300 can miss just like any interceptor could.

    Either way the guilty party here is the one that attacked Ukraine in the first place and specifically launched large cruise missile attack on Ukraine, again.

    And at this point almost nobody in Ukraine believes NATO will do anything even if Russia nukes its Brussels HQ

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by hugebrain View Post
    They were overheard plotting the “dirty bomb” false flag and had to cancel that.
    Source please.

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  • _V_
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    Originally posted by hugebrain View Post

    I’m not disputing whose missile it was, just whether it was accidental.

    They were overheard plotting the “dirty bomb” false flag and had to cancel that. Then, immediately they have the “stray missile” story which nets them another 37 billion (less ten percent for the Big Guy I suppose) and almost triggers WW3. It’s all a bit convenient.
    Another Russian shill / tulipbot.

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  • hugebrain
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post

    The confusion was that both sides use Russian S300 SAM interceptors. S300s are programmed to self-destruct if the target is missed. However, some S300s have been modified for SSM use on the Russian side moreover, some SAMs have faulty self-destruct mechanisms. Finally, if fired from Russia, the S300 is just out of range
    I’m not disputing whose missile it was, just whether it was accidental.

    They were overheard plotting the “dirty bomb” false flag and had to cancel that. Then, immediately they have the “stray missile” story which nets them another 37 billion (less ten percent for the Big Guy I suppose) and almost triggers WW3. It’s all a bit convenient.

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by hugebrain View Post

    Confirmed how? Isn’t it more likely that it was a deliberate Ukrainian attack designed to precipitate WW3?

    If it was a mistake then surely the Ukrainians would have just held their hands up and said sorry?

    IF it was trying to intercept a Russian missile I presume it would have been fired in the opposite direction.
    The confusion was that both sides use Russian S300 SAM interceptors. S300s are programmed to self-destruct if the target is missed. However, some S300s have been modified for SSM use on the Russian side moreover, some SAMs have faulty self-destruct mechanisms. Finally, if fired from Russia, the S300 is just out of range

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by hugebrain View Post
    Confirmed how? Isn’t it more likely that it was a deliberate Ukrainian attack designed to precipitate WW3?

    If it was a mistake then surely the Ukrainians would have just held their hands up and said sorry?

    IF it was trying to intercept a Russian missile I presume it would have been fired in the opposite direction.
    Russian cruise missiles fly non-linear trajectories, they got very large range so can afford to pick long route and hiding close to the border with Poland is a way to get them through.

    "Deliberate Ukranian attack" is non-sense since debris from S-300 is very different from Russian cruise missiles, plus AWACS is flying all the time and sees all trajectories anyway.

    Right now after sustained Russian cruise missile attacks on energy infrastrucure there around 10 mln Ukrainians are without electricity, which means many don't have water or heating either - that's in November in country where winters are very cold.

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  • hugebrain
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post

    It's confirmed that it was a Ukrainian interceptor fired at Russian missile but went astray.
    Confirmed how? Isn’t it more likely that it was a deliberate Ukrainian attack designed to precipitate WW3?

    If it was a mistake then surely the Ukrainians would have just held their hands up and said sorry?

    IF it was trying to intercept a Russian missile I presume it would have been fired in the opposite direction.

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  • saptastic
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    Well this gave everyone a scare for a day or two

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Dark Black View Post
    One can hope that a positive outcome from this, would be NATO supplying more effective air defence systems to Ukraine...
    Never fail to exploit a crisis!

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post

    I believe this shows that Biden acted with a cool head rather than jumping to costly conclusions
    One thing is for certain, it wouldn't have happened on 23/02/2022.

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    I note with interest the comment from Biden, "not likely to have been fired from Russia".

    IMO it looks like Russia have tested NATO's resolve and guess what, as expected NATO has proven to be bloody useless!
    I believe this shows that Biden acted with a cool head rather than jumping to costly conclusions

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  • Dark Black
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    One can hope that a positive outcome from this, would be NATO supplying more effective air defence systems to Ukraine...

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post

    It's confirmed that it was a Ukrainian interceptor fired at Russian missile but went astray.
    Thank goodness for that.

    Sad for the two victims but no escalation.

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