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Originally posted by Jog On View Post
That's his 'red line' which he's prepared to 'demilitarize' them over:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56720589
He offered them terms yesterday including becoming neutral, which apparently Zelensky is taking seriously...
NATO is not invading Ukraine. Ukraine is a democratic country and has been for decades. That land is not Russian or Russia's to just take as and when it pleases. NATO being on Russia's border is a ridiculous thing to highlight, because NATO doesn't invade countries. In this instance, if Russia invade existing members try to recreate the USSR further, NATO forces will very likely have to get involved in Ukraine too.
As for Putin's ever changing "red lines", they change every year, every decade. If you take the time to read his essay from last year you will see how what he suggests is crazy, effectively stating that "The Ukraine is Russian and belongs to Russia, they are one and the same."
Do you personally recognise Ukraine as a democratic country that has the right to choose as it wishes, as with any other democratic country?
Do you personally recognise that Ukraine's democracy is being destroyed by a huge country aggressor that is stating that they are denazifying the country, despite nazis not being in control, no nazi party in existence there, therefore it being a very poor justification and, as we say here, fake?
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostYes, yes, we know you're an apologists for Putin and believe everything published by RT. Meanwhile, here's a long time critic.
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-698594
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Yes, yes, we know you're an apologists for Putin and believe everything published by RT. Meanwhile, here's a long time critic.
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-698594
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
I see. So to prevent a NATO state on their borders, Russia invades Ukraine to have two NATO states on its border. Fantastic thinking there from Jog On. And of course, it's all the nasty West's fault for scaring poor 'ol "wouldn't hurt a fly" Putin.
Let's imagine Ukraine is a Nato member and starts these military operations. Are we supposed to go to war with the Nato bloc? Has anyone given that any thought? Apparently not - Vladimir Putin
Russian President
He offered them terms yesterday including becoming neutral, which apparently Zelensky is taking seriously...
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Originally posted by Jog On View Post
This is caused by the US/UK stuffing Ukraine with weapons with a view to advancing NATO right up to Russia's borders. Putin asked for assurances that Ukraine won't join NATO and we refused, the East/West border situation started escalating (who'd behind that? - choose according to your world view) ignoring the Minsk agreement and here we are...
we started this, now Russia are going to finish it. Oh and we can all enjoy much higher gas and petrol prices thanks to our dear leaders who you think give a tulip about you - bless...
An elderly woman took on one of the invaders.
You’re occupants, you’re fascists! What the f*** are you doing on our land with all these guns? Take these seeds and put them in your pockets, so at least sunflowers will grow when you all lie down here... Guys, guys, put the sunflower seeds in your pockets, please. You will lie down here with the seeds. You came to my land. Do you understand? You are occupiers. You are enemies.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostOh look. Jog on got it utterly wrong.
we started this, now Russia are going to finish it. Oh and we can all enjoy much higher gas and petrol prices thanks to our dear leaders who you think give a tulip about you - bless...
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostOh look. Jog on got it utterly wrong.
Other candidates for paranoia, which often leads to a worsening state of mind, is Gigibronz, whose ramblings are often worrying.
_V_ often seems on the edge of this alt right precipice, but it could be a joke and they are actually still sane.Last edited by agentzero; 24 February 2022, 12:34.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
Are you going to start banning posters for posting conspiracy theories from RT?
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You can tell it's really kicking off* now because the entire crypto market crashed. Clearly time to invest on that falling dagger.
*or it's Thursday.
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Originally posted by Jog On View Post
Putin isn't pushing this it's Biden/Boris trying to push it and failing. Why would Russia invade Ukraine and why now?
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