Reply to: Claiming JSA - my experience

[stphnstevey]

Put your details into a benefit calculator

Benefits calculators - GOV.UK

See how much you get if you say your not working


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I have, mainly UC, unavailable if you have more than 16k

[stphnstevey]

You aren't an employee.

Yeah, I have seen you comment this before, you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about it
HMRC considers me one and is happy to take my tax & NI so I would be happy to take the benefits it's paid for

[northernladuk]

Why would you not meet the other criteria?

- worked as an employee
- paid Class 1 National Insurance contributions, usually in the last 2 to 3 years (National Insurance credits can also count)
- be 18 or over (there are some exceptions if you’re 16 or 17 - contact Jobcentre Plus for advice)
- be under the State Pension age
- not be in full-time education
- be available for work
- not be working at the moment, or be working less than 16 hours per week on average
- not have an illness or disability which stops you from working
- live in England, Scotland or Wales
- have the right to work in the UK

You aren't an employee.

[GhostofTarbera]

Why would you not meet the other criteria?

- worked as an employee
- paid Class 1 National Insurance contributions, usually in the last 2 to 3 years (National Insurance credits can also count)
- be 18 or over (there are some exceptions if you’re 16 or 17 - contact Jobcentre Plus for advice)
- be under the State Pension age
- not be in full-time education
- be available for work
- not be working at the moment, or be working less than 16 hours per week on average
- not have an illness or disability which stops you from working
- live in England, Scotland or Wales
- have the right to work in the UK

Put your details into a benefit calculator

Benefits calculators - GOV.UK

See how much you get if you say your not working


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[stphnstevey]

I know that, but wanted to play along.

Why would you not meet the other criteria?

- worked as an employee
- paid Class 1 National Insurance contributions, usually in the last 2 to 3 years (National Insurance credits can also count)
- be 18 or over (there are some exceptions if you’re 16 or 17 - contact Jobcentre Plus for advice)
- be under the State Pension age
- not be in full-time education
- be available for work
- not be working at the moment, or be working less than 16 hours per week on average
- not have an illness or disability which stops you from working
- live in England, Scotland or Wales
- have the right to work in the UK

[Paralytic]

Which is unlikely

I know that, but wanted to play along.

[GhostofTarbera]

Yes, if you meet all the criteria.

Which is unlikely


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[Paralytic]

So you can claim if your a director been furloughed?

Yes, if you meet all the criteria.

[stphnstevey]

This link on New Style JSA
Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA): Apply for 'new style' JSA - GOV.UK

If you cannot work because of coronavirus (COVID-19)
You can claim JSA if you cannot work but you’re still getting paid by your employer (‘on furlough’) or through the Self-Employment Income Support Scheme.

Both of the following must also apply:

you usually work less than 16 hours a week

you meet the other eligibility requirements for JSA


So you can claim if your a director been furloughed?

[northernladuk]

Pretty clear, I think, that it's far more likely to be the former than the latter.

I would have probably thought that most of the time but we've got a current running thread with the guy claiming unfair dismissal from his client and he doesn't appear to understand who his contract is with and thinks it's with the client even though he's still employed by the umbrella so just checking.

[psychocandy]

My umbrella contract ended 30th Sept, I applied for JSA on 30th Oct. Got confirmation with a couple of days and first payment expected this week, seemed straight forward.

but you lost a month there....

[psychocandy]

Hello

I'm applying for JSA now. It's asking me if I've been unemployed for the last 6 months.

Technically, I'm employed by my own LTD company and paying myself £790/month.

However, I don't have contract anymore. So my company doesn't receive money anymore.

So what should I write? Do I put myself as employed or unemployed?

Thank you

You are probably going to have to lay yourself off and get a P45..... you have been employed.

I think they ask this because periods of unemployment within 6 months are counted as "linked"

[NotAllThere]

What do you mean by umbrella contract? Contract with client via brolly or your actual engagement with the umbrella itself. If the later how did you leave. That post doesn't really help as it is.

Pretty clear, I think, that it's far more likely to be the former than the latter.

[Drei]

PayStream Umbrella contract since beginning of March working for Redbridge Council, got sick with Covid (no joke for anyone that still doesn't believe in it, 41 degree temperature and couldn't breath which threw me in panic attacks which then made it worse, plus all the other tulipty symptoms. Self treatment since you don't get anything), being ill for 3 weeks made me lose my job. A sick contractor is no good to anyone

Since the PayStream Umbrella company doesn't do furlough and from reading on here about Universal Credits, I am just getting around £450 a month via LTD Furlough claim. Lucky I didn't close it down last year. So in the end IR35 is ******* amazing for contractors. I rather get unemployment like all other EU countries, chomage, for around %80 going down to %70 over the course of a year.

[northernladuk]

My umbrella contract ended 30th Sept, I applied for JSA on 30th Oct. Got confirmation with a couple of days and first payment expected this week, seemed straight forward.

What do you mean by umbrella contract? Contract with client via brolly or your actual engagement with the umbrella itself. If the later how did you leave. That post doesn't really help as it is.