Reply to: 6 weeks after interview - get an offer

[d000hg]

Just please take one rather than muck about playing games and end up stuck in your crappy "in between" gig for the sake of a few quid a day. I can already see that next you'll be asking if you should accept this one or wait to hear back about SC...

[psychocandy]

Well its a good week. Another one...

Looks like quite a few were put on hold in nov/dec and have now been reignited. Got another one that I interviewed for ages ago asking me if I'm available.

[psychocandy]

Unfortunately you've already lost, but best of luck with it anyway/

Yeh appreciate that if I'm willing to walk away then it gives me a stronger position....

At the moment, agent just knows I'm in another contract and considering it. They don't know how much I'm currently getting. If they had to guess they'd probably think it was more than they were initially offering for this one.

But we'll see how it goes. Client currently checking SC situation but has promised an offer is on its way. Finger crossed.

[Wanderer]

No such thing as a non-disclosure clause for client with regards to their deal with agency?

Pffft. I've worked with some seriously hard nosed businesses people and I can tell you that those NDAs don't mean tulip when it comes to business negotiations.

The nuclear option is that if you aren't going to take the contract then make sure you post it up to contractor club before you tell the agent so the agent stands to get nothing out of the deal and with margins that high you know they won't be a PSL agent.....

[d000hg]

Certainly a direct approach....

Obviously, owning up that someone at client has spilled the beans to me. :-)

Which isn't your problem.

[Old Greg]

prob will take anyway. Its still MUCH more than current gig.

Unfortunately you've already lost, but best of luck with it anyway/

[psychocandy]

Before negotiating, clarify in your own mind: if unsuccessful will you take it or walk?

prob will take anyway. Its still MUCH more than current gig.

[Old Greg]

OK. Advice/opinion much appreciated.

Before negotiating, clarify in your own mind: if unsuccessful will you take it or walk?

[psychocandy]

Yep but unless you are blunt the agent isn't going to budge. Follow old greg's comment below mine and think how you are going to get the agent to move rate without revealing that you've already outmaneuvered him....

OK. Advice/opinion much appreciated.

[eek]

Certainly a direct approach....

Obviously, owning up that someone at client has spilled the beans to me. :-)

Yep but unless you are blunt the agent isn't going to budge. Follow old greg's comment below mine and think how you are going to get the agent to move rate without revealing that you've already outmaneuvered him....

[Old Greg]

Did you not see me quoting the figure Clientco is paying the agency in the first bit of the paragraph.

No, I didn't bother reading what you'd posted.

[psychocandy]

I cannot see what the problem is.

surely its a short conversation with the agent.

I've been offered the contract starting Jan 16th for which the company is paying your agency £500 a day. While I'm happy to accept the contract and I've told the end client as much I need £425/£450 to make it worth my while leaving where I currently am.

Certainly a direct approach....

Obviously, owning up that someone at client has spilled the beans to me. :-)

[eek]

But it's not that short. The agency says the client won't budge on rate. You say they should look at their margin. They say yadda yadda etc. You say FFS I know what your margin is.

Just skip to the end.

Did you not see me quoting the figure Clientco is paying the agency in the first bit of the paragraph.

[Old Greg]

I cannot see what the problem is.

surely its a short conversation with the agent.

I've been offered the contract starting Jan 16th for which the company is paying your agency £500 a day. While I'm happy to accept the contract and I've told the end client as much I need £425/£450 to make it worth my while leaving where I currently am.

But it's not that short. The agency says the client won't budge on rate. You say they should look at their margin. They say yadda yadda etc. You say FFS I know what your margin is.

Just skip to the end.

[eek]

I cannot see what the problem is.

surely its a short conversation with the agent.

I've been offered the contract starting Jan 16th for which the company is paying your agency £500 a day. While I'm happy to accept the contract and I've told the end client as much I need £425/£450 to make it worth my while leaving where I currently am.