6 weeks after interview - get an offer

[Damon]

I have worked at a large corporate were they went with a single supplier deal with Adecco.

Each role had a fixed rate to the client and they were on 8% if they found candidate and 3% if the client found or referred a candidate.

So slim margins but they had the volume to make it viable for them. The challenge comes when they sub-agencied in candidates as they would then be negotiating hard on rates via the sub to increase their profits.

Made the client not a great place to be and stay for renewals as there was little negotiation or flexibility.

[jmo21]

26% is a an absolute p**stake, anything over 10% is ridiculous for factoring the payments and 10 mins of paperwork.
50 notes a day is 11 thousand pounds a year.
When the agent calls say yes I am interested but I want 450/day, dont explain why or apologise.
If he says hold on - you said 400 was fine at the time, feel free to say that was before I found out you were charging 500.
He might be pissed off but will still want commision and he WONT want to upset the client by not getting you in there.
If they mess you about, I would leave it a couple of days, give them a chance to sort it and then personally I would contact the client just to say you are keen but agent seems to be holding things up over charging 26% of the rate.
THIS IS RISKY so I am telling you what I would do because that 11k would burn me over the following months. If you dont want to upset anyone, suck up the offered rate and get on with it.

This is risky, but PsychoCandy, you mentioned you have 7 days notice on contract?

Are you desperate to get out of that, or would you be happy to stay?

If happy enough to stay, then you have nothing to lose by trying to get as much out of this agent as possible using the "I'll let the client know why %age you're trying to screw me with" line.

(well, not nothing to lose of course, you might lose that agent for futures gigs, but I say go for it!)

[MPwannadecentincome]

26% is a an absolute p**stake, anything over 10% is ridiculous for factoring the payments and 10 mins of paperwork.
50 notes a day is 11 thousand pounds a year.
When the agent calls say yes I am interested but I want 450/day, dont explain why or apologise.
If he says hold on - you said 400 was fine at the time, feel free to say that was before I found out you were charging 500.

You can also say you believe the market has improved since 6 weeks ago.

[psychocandy]

The agency works for the client so they are not going to tell the client off, for fear of losing them as a customer.

No such thing as a non-disclosure clause for client with regards to their deal with agency?

[psychocandy]

This is risky, but PsychoCandy, you mentioned you have 7 days notice on contract?

Are you desperate to get out of that, or would you be happy to stay?

If happy enough to stay, then you have nothing to lose by trying to get as much out of this agent as possible using the "I'll let the client know why %age you're trying to screw me with" line.

(well, not nothing to lose of course, you might lose that agent for futures gigs, but I say go for it!)

Yep. Pretty keen to get out of so don't want to lose this one. Still gonna have a tilt at bit more....

[d000hg]

No such thing as a non-disclosure clause for client with regards to their deal with agency?

Maybe, but my point is the agent wouldn't want to rock the boat over their margin for one contractor.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

NLUK right again here I'm afraid.......

[northernladuk]

Serious question - is this considered a bad thing? My address has always been on my CV.

Bearing in mind it is hard to get all the information you need on 2 to 3 pages of a CV (I say 2 personally) space is at a premium. Ask yourself exactly how your address is helping. No one sends snail mail any more and if anything they can judge you on where you live so adds zero benefit and could be detrimental. Email and phone is all you need nowadays.

[DirtyDog]

Bearing in mind it is hard to get all the information you need on 2 to 3 pages of a CV (I say 2 personally) space is at a premium. Ask yourself exactly how your address is helping. No one sends snail mail any more and if anything they can judge you on where you live so adds zero benefit and could be detrimental. Email and phone is all you need nowadays.

This - and most agents will remove the email address as well, just in case.

(Just in case they find a client who can't type your name into linked in or Google and find you, that is)

[northernladuk]

Thanks for some sensible advice NLUK. So you recommend not telling agent you know? In terms of rate its not £150 but its not £600 either - but a bit higher than you quoted. So we're talking agent making over £100 day on the deal....

Not knowing a host of factors about the attitude of agent and situation I would say stick a rate to the agent lower than you will take with a figure in mind and barter with him until you are satisfied. If he really wants to play hardball and you are in stalemate with him refusing to budge then as a last resort I would 'out' him and point out his rate is too much he is taking the piss.