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Previously on "Same job post by different companies"

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  • rurffy
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    Its really goes down to the individual applying for the role.

    Do you think those agencies which says
    "Ok , i will send off your Cv and please reply that you are happy for us to represent you" will send your CV out to the specified gig? After your conversation with them they might have a ring from someone else who they think is more qualified than you.

    There you go , "cv not sent". ! - You lose your chance.

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  • BolshieBastard
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    I think Bolshie has been stung in the past. But as I said above if there is something with multiple agencies pick the one you like that will ensure you are there and use them.

    Mind you I don't negotiate on price prior to interview and if you play your cards right you can find out what the agency is getting from one of the other agencies handling the job.
    Yep, too right I have. You pick the agency you like (how do you do that realistically?) and apply just to them? But how do you know they are going to submit you out of the 200+ cv's they get for the role?

    By the time you've realised they havent submitted you, it can be too late to apply through another agent.

    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    I would strongly disagree with Bolshie... I have been stung the other way. I applied for a role through two agencies mistakenly. One said Cheshire, the other said the client was in Manchester, anyway, both were the same gig and a right tulipstorm erupted whilst I was in the car park waiting to go in for the first interview with agent 1. Agent 2 tried arranging an interview and found out I was already there. Anyway, mass of very angry calls from the agents while I was sat there resulted in the client refusing to interview me because he couldn't be arsed sorting the mess with the agents.

    Go for one and stick with it. Clients do not want to get in the middle of moaning agents.
    Thing is, when you're looking for roles, are you really going to pass up the opportunity of one in manchester and one in Cheshire?

    I think there may be a tad misunderstanding in the terminology I used. I'd apply for a role advertised through different agencies but I'd only let one of them submit me for the role. The point Im making is you only let an agency submit you for a role once you have all the info.

    I've never advocated being submitted for the same role by multiple agencies.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by unixman View Post
    Northernladuk good advice but your Cheshire/Manchester nightmare is perhaps rare. It could only happen because the end client foolishly asked agent 2 for interview, having already arranged an interview with agent 1. On second thoughts maybe it is not so rare. Tulips indeed.
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    Agents getting the part of the country wrong so I mistakenly applied for the same role is indeed rare but getting binned for applying twice I suspect is a little more common than we realise. Guess it is about attitude to risk. Do you feel that applying more than once gets you a better chance of being put forward which also outweighs the chance of getting binned for that tactic. Who knows.

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  • Antman
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    Originally posted by unixman View Post
    Northernladuk good advice but your Cheshire/Manchester nightmare is perhaps rare. It could only happen because the end client foolishly asked agent 2 for interview, having already arranged an interview with agent 1. On second thoughts maybe it is not so rare. Tulips indeed.

    Today I applied for one gig through 2 agencies, never done that before, always been a 1 agency fella. TBH I was a little annoyed after calling agent 1 because he talked down my skills too much. Anyway he is not showing my CV to the end client (only an intermediary) so what the heck.

    Agent 1 gave me the spiel about perhaps having a customized CV for every application, emphasising this or that aspect of ones skills. It would help the agent, and I have done it before, but who has the time to for that ? Consensus in here seems to be its a waste of time.
    I don't think that it is the consensus, there are those who have different CVs for different roles, I'm not one of them, but it's horses for courses.

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  • unixman
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    Northernladuk good advice but your Cheshire/Manchester nightmare is perhaps rare. It could only happen because the end client foolishly asked agent 2 for interview, having already arranged an interview with agent 1. On second thoughts maybe it is not so rare. Tulips indeed.

    Today I applied for one gig through 2 agencies, never done that before, always been a 1 agency fella. TBH I was a little annoyed after calling agent 1 because he talked down my skills too much. Anyway he is not showing my CV to the end client (only an intermediary) so what the heck.

    Agent 1 gave me the spiel about perhaps having a customized CV for every application, emphasising this or that aspect of ones skills. It would help the agent, and I have done it before, but who has the time to for that ? Consensus in here seems to be its a waste of time.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by rurffy View Post
    to be honest - i would go for all . - and even google the job title more to find out if there are more agencies advertising this job and apply for it all/ -Its a free world . The more you apply , the more your chances are of getting an interview .
    And what happens when you are put forward for interview by two agents? You think they will be happy with that. More chance of interview and even greater chance of being binned before you get there. If you can't to the top of the pile to get an interview with one agent there is a good chance the gig wasn't for you anyway.

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  • rurffy
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    to be honest - i would go for all . - and even google the job title more to find out if there are more agencies advertising this job and apply for it all/ -Its a free world . The more you apply , the more your chances are of getting an interview .

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  • Notascooby
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    Always good to have a preferred and a back-up - Use the back-up to confirm or deny the information being provided by the preferred, just had this very call this morning.

    It's not really in my nature but it was important info based upon contract rate and offered length.

    I personally act keen with the preferred and say I'm interested but not sure with the secondary. Just not looking forward to changing my linkedIN status as I may lose an ally but I'm sure after 12 months he'll have forgotten.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    I think Bolshie has been stung in the past. But as I said above if there is something with multiple agencies pick the one you like that will ensure you are there and use them.

    Mind you I don't negotiate on price prior to interview and if you play your cards right you can find out what the agency is getting from one of the other agencies handling the job.
    I would strongly disagree with Bolshie... I have been stung the other way. I applied for a role through two agencies mistakenly. One said Cheshire, the other said the client was in Manchester, anyway, both were the same gig and a right tulipstorm erupted whilst I was in the car park waiting to go in for the first interview with agent 1. Agent 2 tried arranging an interview and found out I was already there. Anyway, mass of very angry calls from the agents while I was sat there resulted in the client refusing to interview me because he couldn't be arsed sorting the mess with the agents.

    Go for one and stick with it. Clients do not want to get in the middle of moaning agents.

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    I wouldn´t go through multiple agencies just choose the one you want and telephone them. If they ignore you try another one.
    I think Bolshie has been stung in the past. But as I said above if there is something with multiple agencies pick the one you like that will ensure you are there and use them.

    Mind you I don't negotiate on price prior to interview and if you play your cards right you can find out what the agency is getting from one of the other agencies handling the job.

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  • BlasterBates
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    I wouldn´t go through multiple agencies just choose the one you want and telephone them. If they ignore you try another one.

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  • Wanderer
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    Originally posted by zerointeractive View Post
    what do you do when you see multiple company sponsoring the same job opportunity that is exactly fitting your skills?
    Try and find out which one is on the preferred suppliers list.... Not always easy though.

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  • Andy Hallett
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    Choose the agent you want to go through, then tell them that the other agency are considering putting you forward but you haven't confirmed to them yet.

    They'll submit you quicker than you can say 'Agency Wrangle'.

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  • BolshieBastard
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    Originally posted by zerointeractive View Post
    Hi fellows,

    what do you do when you see multiple company sponsoring the same job opportunity that is exactly fitting your skills?
    Would you apply ?

    Thanks for you answers
    You apply through them all otherwise you're limiting your chances of getting an interview.

    If you're lucky, one or more of them will phone you back. The temptation is to go with the one who contacts you first but, before you make a decision you need to know;

    are you just speaking to a drone who doesnt have the final say in submitting your cv to the client?
    will the drone just pass your cv to the agency 'account manager' who may not submit you to the client?
    Are you speaking to the agency account manager and will they commit to forwarding your cv to the client?

    Once you know the answer to these questions, you need to know if the agency submitting you is going to pay you the same, more than or less than other agencies advertising the role.

    Now, armed with the info, you can agree or not, to the agency submitting you for the role but, with the proviso of exclusivity for a max couple of days.

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  • eek
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    Re: Same job post by different companies

    Pick the agent you like and go through them.

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