Reply to: jobserve vs LinkedIn vs ??

[Andy Hallett]

That'll please Andy.

I'll adjust our UK budget accordingly.

[SandyD]

So what if an agent sifts through your contacts to find a manager? Managers are bigboys and girls and more than capable of telling an impudent little pup to fsck off if they are out of line.

Exactly !! If they are on LinkedIn, then they can handle it.

[bobspud]

I hate "recruiters" (agents, pimps, etc)

But I am sure you like the jobs they provide. If I was linked into you, and sat on the bench while a job went begging just because you have your contacts turned off, I would be pretty fed up.

So what if an agent sifts through your contacts to find a manager? Managers are bigboys and girls and more than capable of telling an impudent little pup to fsck off if they are out of line.

The next time you get sat on a bench you might be happy that I let an agent sniff a lead or two for you to take advantage of.

[BolshieBastard]

Also have a list of agents that I would work through that I contact directly, one's who have got me a contract before or who seemed genuine when I was talking to them.

I'd say you were fortunate then. A number of agents who got me past roles are no longer in the business. Even those that havent and I've spoken to in the past seem nothing more than tele sales operatives who know frack all about job specs.

My list has no S3 companies.

That'll please Andy.

[norrahe]

I'm not currently looking but have had a couple of LinkedIn approaches in the last month. Good skills matches too.

LinkedIn jobs section is predominantly perm roles as far as I can see.

I work in Banking so Jobserve is good too.

Also have a list of agents that I would work through that I contact directly, one's who have got me a contract before or who seemed genuine when I was talking to them.

My list has no S3 companies.

For Interim roles on LI you need to get involved in groups, there are a lot of interim groups where gigs are specifically advertised. I'm seeing a lot of my contacts advertising contracts as well.

The only way to get noticed on LI is to participate in group discussions, post articles, but in posting the articles try and instigate discussion. Also posting these articles to groups as well gets you noticed.

My list also has no S3 companies.

Changing your gig title always generates a huge amount of interest especially if you have notifications on your profile where your network sees any small changes.

Though nothing beats good old fashioned face to face networking and then building those contacts up on LI.

[BolshieBastard]

I tend to find most agents say they are contacting me as a result of seeing my details on Jobsite. Im finding more agents say they read my profile on LinkedIn.

I cant remember the last time an agent mentioned Jobswerve when phoning me about roles.

I normally apply for roles through Jobswerve purely because its search options seem to be the best. Jobsite's search option is tulipe imo while Technojobs always seem to be days old despite setting the criteria to 'Today.'

[northernladuk]

As I said those people will be on LinkedIn anyway, and agents can do an advanced search for any decision maker in any company easily without having to go through your connections.

Indeed but they don't know if that person is directly related to contractors. I am sure they do this as well but if you find a contractor there must be a decision maker somewhere near by. Picking any old random person on linked in is just shooting in the dark.

[istvan]

I was asking this question a while ago, started a new contract in Dec last and thought I would give it a test this time. I only disabled my Jobserve profile and left all the rest inc linked in as if I were still available. Within a week, the enquiries stopped and all I get from all the others is just regular spam. A few contacts still from link in but as usual they are all irrelevant to the skill set I have posted there, just agents hoping I will refer their role for free.

I got my latest role through JS (as have all the others for 25+ years) and it was engineering/property domain so they haven't changed fully into financials just yet.

Think I will stick with JS

I tired other boards as well, but JS seems to get me the best response rate. Today, I had two calls both fishing for contacts. I told him that I reported to the global PMO, a guy who was a contractor and he is gone now. To the other I told, in order to get my references see my LinkedIn profile. I have my contacts hidden though.

Not much seem to be going on, but the same 50 contract descriptions seem to be per-mutated for fishing purposes. Today a job showed up, since I checked 5 minutes before and after it was there, it must have been posted just then. So, I called the guy and he tells me, people are already short listed, but he will contact me if they do not get in. He started fishing right after that.

Things are slow, it is my experience, but JS is at least not a black hole.

[SandyD]

I assume they will the spam them in the hope that one of them is a decision maker that takes contractors on?

As I said those people will be on LinkedIn anyway, and agents can do an advanced search for any decision maker in any company easily without having to go through your connections.

[tractor]

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I was asking this question a while ago, started a new contract in Dec last and thought I would give it a test this time. I only disabled my Jobserve profile and left all the rest inc linked in as if I were still available. Within a week, the enquiries stopped and all I get from all the others is just regular spam. A few contacts still from link in but as usual they are all irrelevant to the skill set I have posted there, just agents hoping I will refer their role for free.

I got my latest role through JS (as have all the others for 25+ years) and it was engineering/property domain so they haven't changed fully into financials just yet.

Think I will stick with JS

[Bunk]

I assume they will the spam them in the hope that one of them is a decision maker that takes contractors on?

Or they'll claim some false recommendation from me, like "Hi Bob, Sleazy Agent here, I was talking to Bunk the other day and he said I should get in touch with you". I wouldn't put anything past them.

[northernladuk]

What is the problem with recruiters viewing your connections? After all your connections are on LinkedIn anyway.

I assume they will the spam them in the hope that one of them is a decision maker that takes contractors on?

[kingcook]

What is the problem with recruiters viewing your connections? After all your connections are on LinkedIn anyway.

I hate "recruiters" (agents, pimps, etc)

[SandyD]

What is the problem with recruiters viewing your connections? After all your connections are on LinkedIn anyway.

[sunflower]

e.g. Can they see the companies that I follow (which are usually previous clients or clients that I know of that use my skill)? Can they see my recommendations (which are by previous clients). [too busy to check right now]

They can see recommendations. They can also see your connections as 2nd line (see the People you may know section of LinkedIn) even if you do not allow your connections to be viewed if they search on members in any companies you have worked for.