Reply to: Llloyds Banking Group - Cuts

[TestMangler]

By choice you mean, you choose not to go in the day after they escorted you out the building.

No, twat-boy. I knocked back a three month extension around the time you claimed 'no contractors were getting extended', because I had a six monther in Glasgow instead. I did get 'escorted off the premises' on my last gig though but that was for calling a senior service manager a witch, in a round about way.

[russell]

Try and keep up at the cheap seats. I left Lloyds, by choice, just short of a year ago.

They got rid of you due to the 'strategic review' if I remember

By choice you mean, you choose not to go in the day after they escorted you out the building.

[TestMangler]

Finally got rid of you eh? Took their time finding you out?

Try and keep up at the cheap seats. I left Lloyds, by choice, just short of a year ago.

They got rid of you due to the 'strategic review' if I remember

[northernladuk]

There appears to be an 'N' missing from the thread title...

Llloyds Bannking Group - Cuts?? My spell check says that isn't right....

I hope when the OP spells their clients name right while working there though....

[russell]

There appears to be an 'N' missing from the thread title...

Finally got rid of you eh? Took their time finding you out?

[TestMangler]

There appears to be an 'N' missing from the thread title...

[amcdonald]

What does surprise me is that the inevitable nuclear accident has not yet happened.

If you count credit card details being sold for as little as 2p by bank staff it already has

[tractor]

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Tax-paying public?

Why should you care - you're a tax-dodging contractor, aren't you?

Mucho-mucho fixedness for you!

I guess you saw through me....but atm I appear to be a contract dodger and have been for some while grrr

[nomadd]

Shareholders eventually become the tax paying public.

Much fixedness for you...

Tax-paying public?

Why should you care - you're a tax-dodging contractor, aren't you?

Mucho-mucho fixedness for you!

[tractor]

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Much Bobs = short-term bottom-line looks cheaper. Board pays itself large bonus and is happy, shareholders eventually become unhappy, Bob is useless. Contractors eventually drafted in to fix bob-a-job mess; contractors are happy.

Fixed.

Shareholders eventually become the tax paying public.

Much fixedness for you...

[tractor]

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I also think that this promotion of BoBs and complaints about shortages of skilled IT workers in the UK is nothing more but a cheap propaganda targeted at people with remote view of the actual operations of the bank.

Not sure who is standing behind this - the likes of R*n Ta* would be the obvious candidates but who knows who else is involved in this sham.

Blatant massaging of the benefit realization analysis will be the last step in this charade.

IMO, when the inevitable nuclear accident happens, the people whose decisions led to the advent of BoBs in the UK will be rich and retired in Caribbean.

Precisely, I spent some time on a multi year programme once where the PM changed every 6 months, so did the programme direction and by the time anything could possibly fail, it had been binned and the focus was on the next workstream.

And so it goes on...

[mos]

Much Bobs = cheaper. Board is happy, shareholders is happy, Bob is happy.

What does surprise me is that the inevitable nuclear accident has not yet happened.

I also think that this promotion of BoBs and complaints about shortages of skilled IT workers in the UK is nothing more but a cheap propaganda targeted at people with remote view of the actual operations of the bank.

Not sure who is standing behind this - the likes of R*n Ta* would be the obvious candidates but who knows who else is involved in this sham.

Blatant massaging of the benefit realization analysis will be the last step in this charade.

IMO, when the inevitable nuclear accident happens, the people whose decisions led to the advent of BoBs in the UK will be rich and retired in Caribbean.

[nomadd]

Much Bobs = cheaper. Board is happy, shareholders is happy, Bob is happy

Much Bobs = short-term bottom-line looks cheaper. Board pays itself large bonus and is happy, shareholders eventually become unhappy, Bob is useless. Contractors eventually drafted in to fix bob-a-job mess; contractors are happy.

Fixed.

[ChimpMaster]

Bob

Classic. I wish the owner would update it more often!

[tractor]

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This sort of offshoring happens all the time. I have a lot of experience with it and with dealing with the offshore teams. What I can never figure out is why the bean counters think it is cheeper. The standard ratio I have seen used is you need 5 offshore guys to sort of replace 1 onshore guy (even if that onshore guy used to be offshore).

There are numerous quality problems, communication problems, time zone problems and so on. Especially now as the turnover in offshore companies is so high due to competition for the "best" people. During a 3 month period with a team of 20 people needed recently, the offshore supplier actually moved people in and out all the time and I ended up with a list of 120 people on the core team of 20 (not all at the same time obviously).

How this impacts Lloyds Banking Group and the availability of contracts for UK suppliers I cannot comment on except to say I am in negotiations at the moment to provide Solution and Integration Architecture consultancy.

It doesn't have to be cheaper. It just has to be spun as cheaper. Even when the much cheapness reduces the QoS muchly, it doesn't matter because banks don't care about their QoS to the retail market particularly.

Much Bobs = cheaper. Board is happy, shareholders is happy, Bob is happy.

What does surprise me is that the inevitable nuclear accident has not yet happened.