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Previously on "Disguising interview days?"

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  • BolshieBastard
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    Originally posted by centurian View Post
    Can't be arsed to look for it - what was the executive summary then ? Did you make them see the error of their ways
    I like to think that having discussed it with the IT Director and offerred a sound business to business insight why I didnt think it was a good idea for me (or any other contractor for that matter) to attend roadshows what was clearly an employee orientated presentation.

    He agreed and said it wasnt an issue if I didnt wish to attend.

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  • Spacecadet
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    Originally posted by swamp View Post
    Two interviews suggests they are time wasters. Turn up to work normally on Monday and forget the new contract because it won't happen.
    Not always the case, when going for client facing consultancy contracts the interview process will quite often consist of 2 stages.
    First stage to make sure you're technically competant and able to work with the other techies, support guys and PM.
    The second interview is with someone much higher up the food chain to make sure you're the right sort of person to present to clients. If you fail this stage then you need to consider buying a new suit/tie/handshake

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  • centurian
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    Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
    Yet another epic fail for you. I suggest you go back and read the thread.
    Can't be arsed to look for it - what was the executive summary then ? Did you make them see the error of their ways

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  • BolshieBastard
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    Originally posted by centurian View Post
    Isn't this the one that insists on treating you like a permie - didn't you say you couldn't wait to leave anyway
    Yet another epic fail for you. I suggest you go back and read the thread.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    I had two interviews for my current clientco - thought the first one was on the phone. I do agree though if they need to do 2 face-to-face ones they can't make up their mind.
    I can't disagree more. The last 2 gigs had two interviews one was with the group I would be working for and as I was facing off to an internal 'client' I did the honours infront of their 'client' as well. I don't see a problem with this. Nothing wrong with 2 interviews depending on the role. Can't just have a blanket 20 mins for every single contract role going, thats just BS.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by russell View Post
    WHS

    Never heard of contract role having more than a quick 20 min interview.
    I had two interviews for my current clientco - thought the first one was on the phone. I do agree though if they need to do 2 face-to-face ones they can't make up their mind.

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by centurian View Post
    Or for another suggestion

    Inform them that you will only be in for half the day. Don't want to lose a full day's invoicing after all.

    And when you go in, make sure you are fully suited and booted ready for the interview / having just come from it.
    Extend that further - I'll be in late.

    Turn up late and work late, so you still bill the whole day.

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  • centurian
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    Or for another suggestion

    Inform them that you will only be in for half the day. Don't want to lose a full day's invoicing after all.

    And when you go in, make sure you are fully suited and booted ready for the interview / having just come from it.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by billybiro View Post
    I understand this, but do all of your contracts specifically hinge upon some "deliverable" being delivered?
    Nope but they can do, and the advise "you're a contractor you decide when you can work" has to be balanced by making sure you are not screwing things up... it's not as simple as deciding you won't come in tomorrow. Nothing to do with being a permie... just to do with delivering what you agreed to.

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  • Wobblyheed
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    Originally posted by chana7 View Post
    What's everyone's best interview muse to current clientCo? I took a day off for "personal" reasons yesterday but have now been asked to a follow up (and final) interview, next Monday.

    Can I justify two Mondays running...

    Swift answers please as I could do with letting the gaffer know by COP!
    Ruse??

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  • billybiro
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    If you decide you're not available suddenly, and this leads to you not meeting what you agreed to deliver, you are at the very least being unprofessional... and at worst arguably breaching your contract.
    I understand this, but do all of your contracts specifically hinge upon some "deliverable" being delivered?

    Invariably, for it to be successfully "delivered", the "deliverable" will almost certainly involve and require the resources of more than yourself. Do you still agree to contracts bound to a "deliverable" whereby you may find yourself in breach of your contract due to someone else's inability to "deliver" (the classic situation here is when you're a developer who is reliant upon documentation/instructions of BA's who never deliver) ?

    I agree to provide a specific service for a specific length of time. Of course, that service as supplied is working towards delivering a "deliverable", but under no circumstances is my contract bound to the successful deliverance of the deliverable.

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  • russell
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    Originally posted by swamp View Post
    Two interviews suggests they are time wasters. Turn up to work normally on Monday and forget the new contract because it won't happen.
    WHS

    Never heard of contract role having more than a quick 20 min interview.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by billybiro View Post
    Why? Does there being a "deliverable" or "plan" involved suddenly affect MOO (Mutuality Of Obligation) ?
    If you decide you're not available suddenly, and this leads to you not meeting what you agreed to deliver, you are at the very least being unprofessional... and at worst arguably breaching your contract.

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  • swamp
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    Two interviews suggests they are time wasters. Turn up to work normally on Monday and forget the new contract because it won't happen.

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  • billybiro
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    True... as long as there is no deliverable or plan that will be upset by it.
    Why? Does there being a "deliverable" or "plan" involved suddenly affect MOO (Mutuality Of Obligation) ?

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