Reply to: Ridiculous rates in London?

[TheFaQQer]

Remember the cartoon in Viz comic with the lad with the large nads? (cant remember the name).

I reckon NLUKs Kahunas are that big....

Buster Gonad (NSFW)

[psychocandy]

Dude, why don't you just start a sticky thread called 'NorthernLadUKs Standard Reply' and put the above quote in it, or one of the only slightly differerent variations on the above which are pretty much all your posts ever are? *yawn*

Then you would never have to post again

Remember the cartoon in Viz comic with the lad with the large nads? (cant remember the name).

I reckon NLUKs Kahunas are that big....

[cojak]

Maybe that's because there's been a lot of newbies asking the same kind of question?

[Stan.goodvibes]

You really need to grow some kahuna's. I mentioned this slightly less likely in another one of your threads.

You see one bad rate, you can't go all tearful and upset about that, it happens, it is business, someone will try and take the piss, it always happens.

Your job is to know your market, know your rate, know your clients etc and rise above this rather than getting all upset again. You are a business now. Deal with it.

As I said before. You have have to get a bit tougher if you are gonna cut it contracting. God help you when you get on the wrong side of the client and he walks you. You are gonna have heart attack.

Dude, why don't you just start a sticky thread called 'NorthernLadUKs Standard Reply' and put the above quote in it, or one of the only slightly differerent variations on the above which are pretty much all your posts ever are? *yawn*

Then you would never have to post again

[alreadypacked]

True, I need to toughen up! Working on it at the moment and its taking time. Permie to contracting is not a cake walk I am sure. There are a lot more things to get used to apart from the daily rate !!

Its not actually about 1 bad rate. There are plenty of roles in £300s at the moment. I applied for some this morning on Jobserve and had a few Indian guys call me to discuss it. They hardly knew anything about the role - asked a few irrelevant questions and told me they are putting my CV forward. They have no clue who their end client is. This is crazy!

My advise would be Don't apply for role with a bad rate, you are just wasting your time!
You will see other roles with a lot better rates, apply for them when they come along.
Otherwise you will be in a bad role on a bad rate and will not be able too.

Also you are judged on where you have worked, if you have worked for crap companies on crap rates, it is assumed it is because you are crap.

Don't make that mistake!

[Wanderer]

Solvency-II market is VERY dry at the moment. Not a single BA role in London!

You sound fairly specialised in what you do and on a reasonably high rate. My thinking about jobs at this level is that it's as much who you know as what you know. Get your little black book of contacts out (or Linked-in or whatever) and try and get back in touch with some them. Offer to take them out for lunch or a drink after work (with you buying) and see what they are up to. Be upbeat and positive in your dealings with them but make it clear that if they have anything coming up then you'd love to work with the team again.

Anyway coming to the point, I've seen this today. £200 a day in London???? and several roles around the £300 mark. Depressing!!

Don't let it get to you. They are probably advertising something like this so they can then justify importing someone from overseas on a work visa because they can't recruit anyone in the UK.

As others say, make a plan to keep yourself occupied. Don't drift aimlessly through the day. Stay focused, set time for jobserve, tapping contacts, etc. I find that some self study towards a new qualification is a great thing to do because people will always ask "what are you doing right now?" and answering that you are doing some study or working on a project is a much more positive response than saying that you are just bumming around looking at jobswerve.

Good luck, be brave.

[SueEllen]

True, I need to toughen up! Working on it at the moment and its taking time. Permie to contracting is not a cake walk I am sure. There are a lot more things to get used to apart from the daily rate !!

Its not actually about 1 bad rate. There are plenty of roles in £300s at the moment. I applied for some this morning on Jobserve and had a few Indian guys call me to discuss it. They hardly knew anything about the role - asked a few irrelevant questions and told me they are putting my CV forward. They have no clue who their end client is. This is crazy!

You need to set your day you so you spend a couple of hours spread out during the day applying on the job boards - then you need to get out of the house in between plus have something to occupy yourself like learning something. Doing some exercise in the middle of the day works so do DIY projects.

This is why you only give people your mobile number and make sure your voicemail works.

You also need to get it into your head a lot of the calls you will get will be time wasters and bulltulipters.

[GillsMan]

I saw SII BA rates at £800pd just two weeks ago on Jobserve. Maybe they've just all been filled?

While it's not my bag, I did just land a bit of direct work developing some Solvency II e-learning for a client, which I've recently finished and invoiced for. Nice easy money (probably worked out at around £150ph) and I now get to put "Solvency II" on my CV and LinkedIn. Schweet.

[norrahe]

SII BA for £200 and the market is quiet?????, get yourself on LinkedIn there's loads of roles for SII going there at reasonable rates.

Make sure you are on all the SII groups, a lot of the roles are advertised there rather than jobserve.

[bobspud]

Dear all,
As some of you know, I've been looking for my next role. Jobserve scene looks pale! When I started my last contract in March, avg rate for Solvency-II BA was £500 in London and insurance BAs (outside S-II) were being offered around £400 mark....

Solvency-II market is VERY dry at the moment. Not a single BA role in London! Something very weird happened this time. When I started applying, there were about 10 active roles in the market. My CV was put forward to the client at about 4-5 places. None had any feedback about my CV ! NONE! I chased the agencies and everyone said the role(s) has been filled. (interviews were happening when I applied) I have strong credentials and a strong CV. I am really clueless about whats happening.

Anyway coming to the point, I've seen this today. £200 a day in London???? and several roles around the £300 mark. Depressing!!

Business Analyst - Insurance - London London Temporary Finance Job

Do you see rates coming down in your area(specialisation) too?

For now, I've decided to take up 'anything' thats comes my way and start looking again in Jan. Even 'anything' is seeming hard now!

Thanks for reading through, thoughts welcome.

Hi,
hang in there. I am seeing some really awful rates on offer together with some of the best. So one weeks crap and another's boomed... But you seriously need to take yourself out for a day and get your head straight. Go shooting or fishing. Whatever takes you away from sitting on jobserve worrying... Because that desparation will come across to agents and clients... by all means cut your rates. £250 a day is better than 0 just don't get to a point where you regret short changing yourself.

[TheFaQQer]

Do you see rates coming down in your area(specialisation) too?

No.

[bluedrop]

You really need to grow some kahuna's. I mentioned this slightly less likely in another one of your threads.

You see one bad rate, you can't go all tearful and upset about that, it happens, it is business, someone will try and take the piss, it always happens.

Your job is to know your market, know your rate, know your clients etc and rise above this rather than getting all upset again. You are a business now. Deal with it.

As I said before. You have have to get a bit tougher if you are gonna cut it contracting. God help you when you get on the wrong side of the client and he walks you. You are gonna have heart attack.

True, I need to toughen up! Working on it at the moment and its taking time. Permie to contracting is not a cake walk I am sure. There are a lot more things to get used to apart from the daily rate !!

Its not actually about 1 bad rate. There are plenty of roles in £300s at the moment. I applied for some this morning on Jobserve and had a few Indian guys call me to discuss it. They hardly knew anything about the role - asked a few irrelevant questions and told me they are putting my CV forward. They have no clue who their end client is. This is crazy!

[tarbera]

No Sir

Dear all,
As some of you know, I've been looking for my next role. Jobserve scene looks pale! When I started my last contract in March, avg rate for Solvency-II BA was £500 in London and insurance BAs (outside S-II) were being offered around £400 mark....

Solvency-II market is VERY dry at the moment. Not a single BA role in London! Something very weird happened this time. When I started applying, there were about 10 active roles in the market. My CV was put forward to the client at about 4-5 places. None had any feedback about my CV ! NONE! I chased the agencies and everyone said the role(s) has been filled. (interviews were happening when I applied) I have strong credentials and a strong CV. I am really clueless about whats happening.

Anyway coming to the point, I've seen this today. £200 a day in London???? and several roles around the £300 mark. Depressing!!

Business Analyst - Insurance - London London Temporary Finance Job

Do you see rates coming down in your area(specialisation) too?

For now, I've decided to take up 'anything' thats comes my way and start looking again in Jan. Even 'anything' is seeming hard now!

Thanks for reading through, thoughts welcome.

These are the new rates for the next year

[eek]

The market is bad but you shouldn't be concerned about Solvency 2. That had deadlines and so had a peak demand period when the world and their aunt needed people, now they've got them they don't need more.

All you can do is take your time and find the job you want. Agents and clients can smell panic from miles away so always play it cool.

[northernladuk]

You really need to grow some kahuna's. I mentioned this slightly less likely in another one of your threads.

You see one bad rate, you can't go all tearful and upset about that, it happens, it is business, someone will try and take the piss, it always happens.

Your job is to know your market, know your rate, know your clients etc and rise above this rather than getting all upset again. You are a business now. Deal with it.

As I said before. You have have to get a bit tougher if you are gonna cut it contracting. God help you when you get on the wrong side of the client and he walks you. You are gonna have heart attack.