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Previously on "On-call : fee suggestions"

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  • Wanderer
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    Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    a standing charge equal to 10% of daily rate would normally be applied for each day on-call. If actually called out, then an hourly fee (day rate/8) would be charged on top.
    Sounds perfectly fair to me. I wouldn't take the call out without the standing charge.

    Having someone "on call" is an insurance policy and they have to pay for that - they can't just have people available and only pay them if they are needed. As eek says, consider the SLA too....

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
    If it's in your contract and you agreed to it, that's a different point altogether.

    I'm questioning why anyone would agree to that. You're just bending over and letting the company take advantage.

    That being said, as a contractor, they could just give you your notice if you don't do what they ask.
    But theres a thin line between being flexible and doing a good job as a contractor thus ensuring a lengthy and lucrative contract for yourself, and getting shafted. You've got to draw the line somewhere....

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    A lesson in basic English wouldn't go amiss.
    - VE Thread: On-call : fee suggestions
    oops

    Neg rep for that Eek?? Very cheap shot.

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  • jmo21
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    I guess it could be included as part of a contract. Then I guess its up to you taking all things into consideration if its worth doing or not?

    Then again, having spent many years doing on call in a high pressure support environment, any amount for being on call is not enough. It ruins your life. :-(
    If it's in your contract and you agreed to it, that's a different point altogether.

    I'm questioning why anyone would agree to that. You're just bending over and letting the company take advantage.

    That being said, as a contractor, they could just give you your notice if you don't do what they ask.

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
    Agree with others, why on earth would anyone agree to on-call if they weren't getting paid the standing charge.

    In fact I'm actually surprised a company would actually suggest this.
    I guess it could be included as part of a contract. Then I guess its up to you taking all things into consideration if its worth doing or not?

    Then again, having spent many years doing on call in a high pressure support environment, any amount for being on call is not enough. It ruins your life. :-(

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  • tarbera
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    A lesson in basic English wouldn't go amiss

    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    A lesson in basic English wouldn't go amiss.
    It would as I suffer from dyslexia

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by tarbera View Post
    No, Ask them if the pay there insurance for there car every month, or call the insurance company when they need to make a claim to arrange cover.
    A lesson in basic English wouldn't go amiss.

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  • jmo21
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    Agree with others, why on earth would anyone agree to on-call if they weren't getting paid the standing charge.

    In fact I'm actually surprised a company would actually suggest this.

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  • psychocandy
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    I did a contract a while back and they asked me to go on call. I told them they'd have to sort out with agency but they said they'd pay me an allowance same as permies. Hmmmm.

    Not too keen but it was a decent contract otherwise so fair dos. Then I found out that I would only get my normal hourly rate for when I was on site if I got called. (i.e no travelling time). I lived an hours drive away so could have driven 100mile round trip spend 30mins in the office for £20 or something.

    Queried this with the manager and he said yes that was the deal. Told them no way mateys.

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  • tarbera
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    they are having a laugh

    Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    I'm used to being on-call for specialist or occasional tasks, and being compensated for doing so. For example, a standing charge equal to 10% of daily rate would normally be applied for each day on-call. If actually called out, then an hourly fee (day rate/8) would be charged on top.

    However, I'm in a situation now where the client does not wish to pay a standing charge. Instead, they will pay an hourly rate when called out, the rate being equal to 1.5 * my normal hourly rate.

    I'm not keen on this, as it's possible to be on-call (24 hours) and take all the hassle, but not get called, and hence not get paid.

    Has anyone here been on-call in this way?

    No, Ask them if the pay there insurance for there car every month, or call the insurance company when they need to make a claim to arrange cover.

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  • TraceRacing
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    Tell them that you'll do it for that rate but that you cannot confirm if you will be available and the first time they call say you're too busy.... (sorry - playing golf, visiting my mum...)

    They will either end the service or discuss a retainer for being on call.

    They want the insurance but don't want to pay the premium.

    Personally I'd tell them to take a hike...whould they be on call for nothing?

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    I'm used to being on-call for specialist or occasional tasks, and being compensated for doing so. For example, a standing charge equal to 10% of daily rate would normally be applied for each day on-call. If actually called out, then an hourly fee (day rate/8) would be charged on top.

    However, I'm in a situation now where the client does not wish to pay a standing charge. Instead, they will pay an hourly rate when called out, the rate being equal to 1.5 * my normal hourly rate.

    I'm not keen on this, as it's possible to be on-call (24 hours) and take all the hassle, but not get called, and hence not get paid.

    Has anyone here been on-call in this way?
    What is the time frame for support is it drop everything and fix now or fix within 48 hours?

    It sounds tulip and personally I wouldn't take it and that rate is low enough to be abused and so used often.

    Personally I would be after 3-6x the standard hourly rate to stop getting support issues that other people could easily deal with.

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  • RasputinDude
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    I have an on-call agreement with a couple of clients.

    I have an agreed rate for each of during the day, evening (up to 11pm) and nights.

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  • ChimpMaster
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    On-call : fee suggestions

    I'm used to being on-call for specialist or occasional tasks, and being compensated for doing so. For example, a standing charge equal to 10% of daily rate would normally be applied for each day on-call. If actually called out, then an hourly fee (day rate/8) would be charged on top.

    However, I'm in a situation now where the client does not wish to pay a standing charge. Instead, they will pay an hourly rate when called out, the rate being equal to 1.5 * my normal hourly rate.

    I'm not keen on this, as it's possible to be on-call (24 hours) and take all the hassle, but not get called, and hence not get paid.

    Has anyone here been on-call in this way?

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