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Previously on "Contract renewal - should I ask for a rate increase or just be grateful?"

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  • lukemg
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    I tread carefully on this if I am at somewhere I want to stay. I have been here 18 months so pitched for just under 10% for COL + jobs at this level were being advertised at a bit more than my rate.
    Got the rise but a bollocking for leaving it till 3 days before contract end (which is when agent gave me nod, even though client said it would probably be ok a couple of weeks before). They had to redo PO, get authorisation etc so cocked up but very happy with upgrade !!

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  • Scrag Meister
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    Originally posted by FatTony View Post
    my first post...

    I was in the same boat. Asked for rise last time they said no. So agreed with agent that I would ask next time, which is now.
    I managed to get a small rise, enough to keep me there.

    F.T
    After my first year I renewed for a 12 month extension,with a 12% rise, 6 months later they chopped 15%!!! Glad I pushed for the 12% as I would have been even worse off if I hadn't.

    Currently 6 months into a 12 monther, and already thinking about whether I should ask for a little more if they offer an extension.

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  • FatTony
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    Nothing ventured nothing gained

    my first post...

    I was in the same boat. Asked for rise last time they said no. So agreed with agent that I would ask next time, which is now.
    I managed to get a small rise, enough to keep me there.

    F.T

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  • PharmaContractor
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Are you based in the UK but working on the continent?
    Yes, I 'live' in UK but am tax registered on the continent. I have no income in UK. Not liable for anything here apart from council tax and speeding tickets...afaik

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  • MarillionFan
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    I've been in and out with the present client for 18 months. Pushed a rate increase through at Xmas. Client has also just imposed a pay freeze for permies. Contract
    finishes in October and they've already mooted extensions into next year. I'm now SME on two of their three product offerings(I designed both) and they have no permies SMEs. Informed client i will not extend in October to look at other opportunities.

    Sow the seeds early.

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  • NotAllThere
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    I don't feel left out because my permie colleagues get pay rises and other benefits, so I certainly wouldn't feel guilty about rate increase. What permies get and what I get are totally unrelated.

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  • kaiser78
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    Originally posted by MrRobin View Post
    Don't "ask" for a rate increase, it will almost always be declined.

    "Tell" your client that you will be increasing your rate by a small amount for the next contract. Start with 10% but be prepared to go to 5% when they say "we have no additional budget" or some bull like that.
    Doesn't really work like that in reality.

    You can ask for a rise, but as other poster says try to provide reasons to justify this and also but prepared to walk if the client co says no and you are not happy with this outcome.

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  • BlasterBates
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    Am a continental tax payer, so no need to worry about 24month rule. 36 months will cause me a headache though.
    Are you based in the UK but working on the continent?
    Last edited by BlasterBates; 12 September 2011, 16:40.

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  • PharmaContractor
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Ask for 10% and expect to get less than that or zero as remember if you don't ask you don't get.
    Yes, that's more of what I was thinking too

    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    How long have you been with the client and how long will the extension be? If you are going to fall foul of the 24 month rule you could always claim the increase is due to your increased costs. This may help with your guilt.
    yes...demand an extra 10% due to rising inflation, cost of travel, accommodation etc. Completing a 12 month contract, so this would be a another 12monther.

    Am a continental tax payer, so no need to worry about 24month rule. 36 months will cause me a headache though.

    Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
    What Mr Robin said.

    Generally helps if you can back the increase up with reasons.
    If you're staying away from home then make sure that the expenses incurred in staying away are included as part of that reason - that way you might be able to negotiate some working from home in lieu of all the rate increase.
    Flying Ryanair, so could justify the increase by saying I can't stand them any longer and am upgrading to BA...

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  • BlasterBates
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    There is no point asking or demanding a rate increase in the current climate unless you're inundated with offers, which I suspect you're not. If you want bulldoze a rate rîse through it will be at best cost of living probably 1 or 2 %. Don't see much hope of a decent rate rise getting past purchasing approval.

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  • Spacecadet
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    Originally posted by MrRobin View Post
    Don't "ask" for a rate increase, it will almost always be declined.

    "Tell" your client that you will be increasing your rate by a small amount for the next contract. Start with 10% but be prepared to go to 5% when they say "we have no additional budget" or some bull like that.
    What Mr Robin said.

    Generally helps if you can back the increase up with reasons.
    If you're staying away from home then make sure that the expenses incurred in staying away are included as part of that reason - that way you might be able to negotiate some working from home in lieu of all the rate increase.

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  • northernladuk
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    How long have you been with the client and how long will the extension be? If you are going to fall foul of the 24 month rule you could always claim the increase is due to your increased costs. This may help with your guilt.

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  • MrRobin
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    Don't "ask" for a rate increase, it will almost always be declined.

    "Tell" your client that you will be increasing your rate by a small amount for the next contract. Start with 10% but be prepared to go to 5% when they say "we have no additional budget" or some bull like that.

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  • SueEllen
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    Ask for 10% and expect to get less than that or zero as remember if you don't ask you don't get.

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  • Contract renewal - should I ask for a rate increase or just be grateful?

    Contract is up for renewal but I have already been told that they are keen for me to sign an extension at the end of this current contract. The question I have is, should I ask for a raise or not?

    I have the advantage that I am dealing direct with the client so no agency shenanigans to deal with. I know that all employees within the organization have been informed that there will be a pay-freeze for next year. Should I therefore be grateful that they are going to extend my contract or should I also ask for a rate increase?

    I feel guilty for asking for a rate increase when the employees I am working with aren’t getting jack. On the other hand, I have to look after numero uno, and shouldn’t consider what’s happening internally. But then I am dealing with the hiring manager direct and don't want to come across as unreasonable. Don't want to shoot myself in the foot!

    In terms of the increase, I was thinking of 5-10% sounded reasonable.

    Any opinions?

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