Originally posted by DimPrawn
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Just say the commercial director has set expectations on revenue that must be made or a board decision will be made to remove you from executive power.
If they ask who this person is, just say "the missus".
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They seemed OK about it. Apparently I wasn't the only contractor that had told them at the last minute that they weren't renewing.
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Tell them its purely a "commercial decision"
Its a nice cop-out that clients and agencies tend to use on many occasions when they wish to remove any humanity from their decisions.
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Originally posted by Mr Blek(I've been working on a new project thats a week old).
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Expat's dead right. You signed a contract X months ago to work for X months. You've fulfilled that contract. Nobody's under any obligation to do the same deal again, and nobody should be automatically expecting it.
OK so you may have led them on a bit, and feel a bit daft now that your policy has changed. Just tell them circumstances have changed. They'll survive.
Even better, post some info about the contract and maybe somebody on the board will be happy to take your place.
If this is your biggest problem right now, count yourself lucky!
tl
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Why should you take a guilt trip on this?
If the boot was on the other foot, and the client needed to get rid of you, do you think they would have any 'not wanting to let the contractor down' sentiments. Also, if they need you so much, then they should expect to make it worth your while. If they are not prepared to pay a little extra to keep a contractor who has expeniance of their working practices and environment, then that is their problem. How much will it cost to get a newbie in and how long until the new guy is up to speed?
If you do not want to extend at the end of a contract then it is purely your decision. The only thing I would consider is the prospect of future work. If that prospect is slim and they won't play ball on the rate, then feck 'em.
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Originally posted by Mr BlekThe only problem I have is that I feel guilty about letting the client down. Or as a contractor am I not supposed to feel guilty?
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If the client really wants you he'll pay; clearly the client sees that is cheaper to get someone else in train them and delay the project than to pay you extra. This isn't a moral question, it is "economics". However that particular project manager probably won't employ you again.
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Originally posted by Mr BlekI guess I need to keep it at a business level and not let it get personal. I'm sure if the boot was on the other foot ...
You're assuming (which even the client may not) that you have an obligation to make another deal at the same price as the last one, if that should be what they want. From the facts given, I don't see that that's true.
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Originally posted by expatAre you letting them down? In the end that's for you to decide because it's a moral question. But I'd say it's not letting them down just because you decline to give them something that they'd happen to like (an extension at the same price) but that you don't really owe them.
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Originally posted by Mr BlekThe only problem I have is that I feel guilty about letting the client down. Or as a contractor am I not supposed to feel guilty?
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Originally posted by malvolioTake the money on offer or don't renew. You've painted yourself into this corner, it's your call how to get out of it.
I pointed out a while back that clients do not give rate rises because you're still there, only if you have done something exceptional - they already pay you to be good. If he won't up the rate and the agent won't change their margin (and why should they? is how they would look at it), there ain't no other options. Next time point out to the agent that renewal is likley at no effort to them so how about a discount on the rate: but 99% of the time, for the sort of rise you're likely to get, it really isn't worth the hassle. And right now you don't have anything to bargain with.
But I suspect you alread know that...
The client confirmed to me that they wanted to extend. I got in touch with the agency to change terms of the contract to which they agreed, and then I inquired about the rate increase which the agent said was being discussed. This was last week, and only today has the agent got back to me, so i said, thanks but no thanks.
The only problem I have is that I feel guilty about letting the client down. Or as a contractor am I not supposed to feel guilty?
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Take the money on offer or don't renew. You've painted yourself into this corner, it's your call how to get out of it.
I pointed out a while back that clients do not give rate rises because you're still there, only if you have done something exceptional - they already pay you to be good. If he won't up the rate and the agent won't change their margin (and why should they? is how they would look at it), there ain't no other options. Next time point out to the agent that renewal is likley at no effort to them so how about a discount on the rate: but 99% of the time, for the sort of rise you're likely to get, it really isn't worth the hassle. And right now you don't have anything to bargain with.
But I suspect you alread know that...
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Leaving contract
I'm currently in a contract that ends this week. The client is willing to renew, but the agency has been stalling since I asked for a rate rise. The first time the agent let it slip that a rate rise conversation had occurred (not that he told me, I had to ask), but today informed me that the client wasn't willing to pay extra.
To me that's fine. I'm used to agents conning contractors, and in the past 've just learned to live with it. I phoned the agent and told them I wasn't interested in renewing. The only problem is I have a conscience and would hate to leave the client with a resourcing problem (I've been working on a new project thats a week old). In the meantime, I've been snapped up by another client that pays more and I get to learn new products/skill set.
What's the best way to deal with the old client in this situation?
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