Reply to: Hays again, ID verification???

[MaryPoppins]

fair enough.

Shall we have a hug and make up??

[NeverBeenNorthOfTheM25]

fair enough.

Shall we have a hug and make up??

[Sockpuppet]

Shopping at a store that may or may not be hiring an illegal is hardly the same relationship as a company that has legal contracts with the hiring company and in most cases as part of the brief ..... to ensure that the people they put forward are legitimately able to work in the UK.

Ok, do you think Santander asked McLaren to prove Lewis Hamilton was eligible to work in the UK before using him in advertising.

After all using him was part of the deal/contract to supply him.

I'd not question them wanting a letter stating that all employees of MyCo are eligible to work in the UK or even wording the same (which they do) into the contract.

But why the feck should they feel obliged to take a copy of my passport. They wouldn't give me theirs so why should I give them mine - most agents don't know their arse from their elbow and I'd rather not see a scan of it sit on some shared network drive for any fecker to use.

[NeverBeenNorthOfTheM25]

Hows it different. If you want to see yourself as a quasi employee then go ahead.

You'll be telling us Sayara Beg has a point next.

Shopping at a store that may or may not be hiring an illegal is hardly the same relationship as a company that has legal contracts with the hiring company and in most cases as part of the brief ..... to ensure that the people they put forward are legitimately able to work in the UK.

[Sockpuppet]

Thanks for comparing Apples with Oranges. Thats helpful.

Hows it different. If you want to see yourself as a quasi employee then go ahead.

You'll be telling us Sayara Beg has a point next.

[NeverBeenNorthOfTheM25]

When will the agent realise they are not employers.

If you shop at Tesco and they get done for using an illegal it doesn't come back on you does it.

Thanks for comparing Apples with Oranges. Thats helpful.

[BenchMaster]

For my latest contract (Mossad were involved) they wanted not only a scanned copy of my passport photo page BUT also a scanned copy of the front cover!

Surely the outside of my passport is the same as anybody elses.

FTFY.

[Sockpuppet]

When will the agent realise they are not employers.

If you shop at Tesco and they get done for using an illegal it doesn't come back on you does it.

[bellymonster]

For my latest contract (Hays were involved) they wanted not only a scanned copy of my passport photo page BUT also a scanned copy of the front cover!

Surely the outside of my passport is the same as anybody elses.

Also had to provide references going back 5 years, although they accepted the agents I'd worked through.

It wouldn't be so bad but I worked onsite at the same place only 5 months previously.

[northernladuk]

I've never been asked to go to an agents office before though. And why not simply make it so any UK national who wants to apply for an id card is able to get one instead of being told you must have a current passport first?

Because the system is broken I guess. I have had to do this twice and just send them a third time. I would have expected any company serious about checking ID would do a check in person as well just to be sure. Guess it is down to how comfortable a company is covering their asses with post/faxed docs. Personally I see Hay's approach as being thorough.. pain in the ass yes but thorough.

[BolshieBastard]

FFS. We moan about tooo many offshore workers coming in taking the jobs and working here when they shouldn't be and the industry in decline and when someone puts in a check to help combat this we moan again.

The onus is now on the employers to prove the people are eligible to work in the UK so if my ass was on the line I would be asking for a copy of your passport bank statements and inner leg measurements etc...

Here is some reading..

Immigration stuff



Sometimes I actually, just a tiny little bit, somewhere where the sun don't shine, feel sorry for agents having to deal with us

I've never been asked to go to an agents office before though. And why not simply make it so any UK national who wants to apply for an id card is able to get one instead of being told you must have a current passport first?

[northernladuk]

I've been offered an interview via Hays but they're insisting I call into one of their offices with some ID so they can verify I am a eligible to work in the UK.

I've never had to do this in 7 years of contracting but they are saying that it's now standard practise, whats all this about then? No other agency is asking me to do this.

Anyone else had to do this recently? I wouldn't mind but it would mean a tenner in petrol and a morning out.

FFS. We moan about tooo many offshore workers coming in taking the jobs and working here when they shouldn't be and the industry in decline and when someone puts in a check to help combat this we moan again.

The onus is now on the employers to prove the people are eligible to work in the UK so if my ass was on the line I would be asking for a copy of your passport bank statements and inner leg measurements etc...

Here is some reading..

Immigration stuff

As an employer, you have a
responsibility to prevent illegal
migrant working in the UK. Sections
15–25 of the Immigration, Asylum
and Nationality Act 2006 (the
‘2006 Act’) set out the law on the
prevention of illegal migrant working.
These provisions came into force on
29 February 2008. They replace the
previous offence under section 8 of
the Asylum and Immigration Act
1996 (the ‘1996 Act’).

Sometimes I actually, just a tiny little bit, somewhere where the sun don't shine, feel sorry for agents having to deal with us

[Jeebo72]

I've been asked to fax through my passport a few times before jobs commence. Always cut out a few details though ...

[Julius Caesar]

I had to do this with Spring a while back. All they would parrot at me was 'standard practice' when I asked them why, "to prove you are who you say you are".

How did you know it was really Spring?



Oh wait, they were a bunch of cants who made you do stupid things and couldn't explain why.

[gingerjedi]

I had to do this with Spring a while back. All they would parrot at me was 'standard practice' when I asked them why, "to prove you are who you say you are".

My last contract was with Spring, they never asked.