Reply to: Security clearance...and 'massaged' dates.

[MaryPoppins]

It's not that rare.

I've heard that story from plenty of contractors.

In some cases the person lying has been caught out at interview.

WSS - that's why I would have to be pretty desperate to consider doing anything like that. It's a small world for us contractors!

[SueEllen]

No it was a totally different client, he had no idea that I was there or that I would be shown his CV.

It's not that rare.

I've heard that story from plenty of contractors.

In some cases the person lying has been caught out at interview.

[swamp]

I've never had my CV checked out in ten years, and that includes SC.

Maybe I will get hauled across the hot coals by a vetting company for my next contract, and maybe I will 'tidy up' my CV beforehand... But there comes a point in time where even I cannot remember the correct dates and skill sets for some gigs. I've worked at companies and departments that don't exist any more, places overseas and for people I have long forgotten. Good luck to any vetting company digging though that heap!

[Pogle]

This is a different category altogether, called blatant stupididty. Unbelievable that he put this level of lies on a CV he knew was going back into the same client, surely he didn't know that ?

No it was a totally different client, he had no idea that I was there or that I would be shown his CV.

[Ruse]

Just a cautionary tale.

I am currently working alongside a consultancy at clientoco.
The consultancy were recruiting for contractors in my area and asked me about a candidate as they saw we'd worked on the same project earlier this year. They showed me his CV. His short 6 week stint had become 6 months, the work he had claimed to have done bore no relation to what he did. His CV was binned by the consultancy.

I am honest on my CV and this little incident illustrates to me perfectly why I should be.

This is a different category altogether, called blatant stupididty. Unbelievable that he put this level of lies on a CV he knew was going back into the same client, surely he didn't know that ?

[Pogle]

Just a cautionary tale.

I am currently working alongside a consultancy at clientoco.
The consultancy were recruiting for contractors in my area and asked me about a candidate as they saw we'd worked on the same project earlier this year. They showed me his CV. His short 6 week stint had become 6 months, the work he had claimed to have done bore no relation to what he did. His CV was binned by the consultancy.

I am honest on my CV and this little incident illustrates to me perfectly why I should be.

[Mr.Whippy]

Ps. Just been through a very, very rigorous vetting process for an Investment Bank. I had no problems whatsoever. Without those "white lies", I'd be still on the bench.

Then I'd say it can't have been anywhere near as rigorous as you seem to think.

[MaryPoppins]

The day after I post I feel the same to be honest

It's just my way off letting of steam, some people are calm and considerate, some off us let off both barrels. I enjoy a good heated opinionated discussion, thats life. If we all gave warm cuddles to the idiots there would be no incentive for them to think before they post and we would be knee deep in them. This is a public forum of faceless strangers so you are gonna get the full spectrum of opinions whether people like it or not.

True - and that was mine

I did squirm when I read the OP's post I admit. I haven't however been on the bench for as long as them, so don't know how far I would go in that position.

[northernladuk]

getting myself worked up to the level that Northernlad regularly seems to, feels a little futile

The day after I post I feel the same to be honest

It's just my way off letting of steam, some people are calm and considerate, some off us let off both barrels. I enjoy a good heated opinionated discussion, thats life. If we all gave warm cuddles to the idiots there would be no incentive for them to think before they post and we would be knee deep in them. This is a public forum of faceless strangers so you are gonna get the full spectrum of opinions whether people like it or not.

[MaryPoppins]

It's also easy to judge when you have lost good gigs and are on the breadline because someone that got it above you blatently lied on their cv. A point that seems to be lost on most of the 'doo gooders good luck to the OP' types here.

If you have been out of work for ages it's probably because some lying b*****d keeps getting your work. Ok if you can't beat them join them fair enough but do it quietly and certainly don't come on a public board and condone it.

I wonder how different this link would have been had most of us here knew for sure we have lost good work to liars.

I am on the bench, but don't blame other people for this fact. My personal choice is not to lie on my CV, but to accept that in some cases, it simply isn't good enough.

If other people lie to get a role, that is their choice and will probably backfire on them at some point. I don't condone it. If I knew for a fact that a liar had got a role over me, I doubt I would waste too much time procrastinating about it - tulip happens.

[MaryPoppins]

IF you had the read the previous posts you would see that I don't change dates on my CV. However I have been out of work for a substantial period of time also and if it comes down to a straight choice between making a minor alteration to my CV to get interviews for a job or being able to pay my bills and feed and clothe my family properly, hmmm, I wonder which I will choose....

What you are doing is judging other people when you know nothing about their circumstances, that is what is unforgivable.

Well said. I personally don't actually agree with what the OP has done, it does stretch the truth a little more than I would ever consider. However, getting myself worked up to the level that Northernlad regularly seems to, feels a little futile.

[Ruse]

How fookin clear do you need it to be?

Don't assume that just because your standards are low that the same applies to everyone else.

IF you had the read the previous posts you would see that I don't change dates on my CV. However I have been out of work for a substantial period of time also and if it comes down to a straight choice between making a minor alteration to my CV to get interviews for a job or being able to pay my bills and feed and clothe my family properly, hmmm, I wonder which I will choose....

What you are doing is judging other people when you know nothing about their circumstances, that is what is unforgivable.

[northernladuk]

It's easy to be quick to judge until you've been out of work for ages, I guess.

It's also easy to judge when you have lost good gigs and are on the breadline because someone that got it above you blatently lied on their cv. A point that seems to be lost on most of the 'doo gooders good luck to the OP' types here.

If you have been out of work for ages it's probably because some lying b*****d keeps getting your work. Ok if you can't beat them join them fair enough but do it quietly and certainly don't come on a public board and condone it.

I wonder how different this link would have been had most of us here knew for sure we have lost good work to liars.

[HairyArsedBloke]

I am so glad that I don’t have to go through all this anymore; I’d never get a job. Not because of gaps (4 weeks off – been out of work too long! What is that about FFS), but because of what I HAVE been doing.

[SorenLorensen]

For the record, I moved the dates of the contract along 6 months. I did not 'add' 6 months on to the length of the contract.

Ok, that's not quite so bad then, I thought you'd added an extra 6 months on. Wouldn't do it myself though. I think your issue is more likely to be with a reference...or if someone knows someone who worked at that client, and they say you didn't work there at those dates. That's more likely to be problematic than getting security clearance.