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Previously on "SC & Bench period mismatch....!!"

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  • Mr.Whippy
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    The best advice your really getting is don't lie on your cv again.
    +1
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    I have a personal beef about situations like this and so should every honest person on the bench that lost a gig due to someone lying.
    +1 again. Bad enough competing with the genuine people in this market as it is, without having to worry about all the bulltuliper's out there getting roles they possibly can't do... I hope they all get rumbled and contract terminated so the honest people can get a crack of the whip. Unlikely, but I live in hope

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  • northernladuk
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    Well am sorry for being so harsh but it's a black and white issue. What do people want in this situation?? SYmpathy? You fudge a system through dubious techniques and then come on to a public forum requesting information how to get out of the problem you got yourself in? You are gonna get the odd harsh response. Lets be honest you are getting advice how to get away without being sacked or worse. The best advice your really getting is don't lie on your cv again.

    I have a personal beef about situations like this and so should every honest person on the bench that lost a gig due to someone lying. Maybe some people can ignore this fact cause it hasn't happened to them (or so they think) but not me. Sorry guys

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  • Stan.goodvibes
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    Hmmm this appears to be the Moral Majority forum, how did I get here? Now where is the Contracting one?

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  • Darren_Test
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    I know it will be bit unfair....But....

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  • BrowneIssue
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    You're not going to like this.

    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    I filled 6 months gap in my previous job with experience
    I.e. you lied on your CV.

    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    How this is going to affect my SC vetting?
    I.e. "Do I lie again or risk getting caught out as a liar?"

    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    Did any one faced similar troubles ie mismatch between actual & experience in CV?
    Well, liars would.

    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    My worry was two fold. Not just losing this role, but if HMRC ask me to pay tax for 6 months which I claimed to be working in my CV!
    Shouldn't have lied then, should you? Or did you lie to HMRC too?

    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    I do not have any criminal records & never involved in any nasty activities.
    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    BTW traffic offence like speeding, is it part of Criminal offence ..?
    Make your mind up. Richard Cranium would be accusing you of being a recruitment agent by now.

    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    "be very open and honest about your finances" what information they will be looking on finances?
    Oh dear. Now what?

    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    Its not for a financial client, so they many not much worried about that.
    Think again. However, they will only do a credit check.

    So, you are going for an SC role - a role requiring trust and integrity - and you openly admit on here you are a liar. I do not know what surprises me more, your brazen audacity or that anyone answered your questions.

    However, from what I know of the process, you will get away with it. Which is a shame.

    Are you familiar with the expression: "It is contractors like you who give the rest of us a bad name"?

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  • Mr.Whippy
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    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    Ok..If information to DVA is not shared to client then it will be fine.
    Might vary from place to place, but when I did mine many moons ago, I had to send the forms back to the vetting/security department of my sponsor. The only exception being that you could put the criminal record in a sealed envelope if you wanted to.
    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    "be very open and honest about your finances" what information they will be looking on finances..?
    For SC, nothing much, just things like have you been declared bankrupt, CCJ's, loan defaults etc etc nothing like a DV check.
    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    If I work through "My Ltd company" contracted to "Agency" working for "Consultancy" working for "End Client" & working at end client location, who's is my employer for DVA purpose..???
    ie Who's name I have to give to DVA..?
    Personally, I'd always put the end client,as they will probably contact them to confirm you did actually work there. If it's not possible to name the end client, then the consultancy.

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  • the_duderama
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    Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post
    Ok..thanks..lets see..
    Its not for a financial client, so they many not much worried abt that..
    No, they still look at your finances for SC to see if they are in a mess and hence be bribed into doing something naughty.

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  • Darren_Test
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    Originally posted by SuperZ View Post
    You`ll be alright, just don`t lie on the forms.
    For some types of SC, think they do go into your financials BTW.

    Good luck with the permie role!.... you poor sod

    The forms tell you if youshould list traffic convictions

    Ok..thanks..lets see..
    Its not for a financial client, so they many not much worried abt that..

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  • Darren_Test
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    thanks northernlad..

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  • SuperZ
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    You`ll be alright, just don`t lie on the forms.
    For some types of SC, think they do go into your financials BTW.

    Good luck with the permie role!.... you poor sod

    The forms tell you if youshould list traffic convictions

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  • Darren_Test
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    Originally posted by the_duderama View Post
    The DVA will ask you for complete work history, and they will check it (don't know how).

    So i would be very open and honest with them, otherwise they will see you are lying and you won't get cleared. Your employer shouldn't be reading the form that is sent to the DVA as it will have financial and medical information on it.

    Also be very open and honest about your finances, medical stuff, everything really, again if your found to be dishonest they won't clear you.

    Ok..If information to DVA is not shared to client then it will be fine.

    "be very open and honest about your finances" what information they will be looking on finances..?

    If I work through "My Ltd company" contracted to "Agency" working for "Consultancy" working for "End Client" & working at end client location, who's is my employer for DVA purpose..???
    ie Who's name I have to give to DVA..?

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  • northernladuk
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    I filled 6 months gap in my previous job with experience to reduce the bench period.
    You mean you lied on your CV? You should be more worried your employer picks up on this and he walks you out for lying on your CV in my opinion.

    Did any one faced similar troubles ie mismatch between actual & experience in CV..??
    I have, friend of mine did what you did and got walked out when the financial company he was working for noticed diff when he was going through financial checks. Not many people take kindly to you lying on your CV. If you can't be honest on that you can't be trusted with their sensitive data

    You don't have a 'mismatch' you lie. That's the top and tale, a bare faced lie which will get you in trouble.

    Maybe I am being a bit overly pedantic and many people have 'mis-matches' but that is only because they got away with it. Not the way I want to feel every day I walk in to work.
    Last edited by northernladuk; 20 October 2009, 15:19.

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  • Darren_Test
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    If anyone has failed, they won't know the reason. It's not something to discuss in the wild anyway.

    The whole test is two questions: "Can you be blackmailed?". and "Does this guy tell the truth?". Adjusting a CV is merely sharp salemanship. I know people with SC who have fairly serious crimes in their history who have been honest about them so no problem. Equally I've known people "not mention" a trivial criminal offence like possession and wonder why they failed SC.
    OK..Got it..
    BTW traffic offence like speeding, is it partof Criminal offence ..?

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  • the_duderama
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    The DVA will ask you for complete work history, and they will check it (don't know how).

    So i would be very open and honest with them, otherwise they will see you are lying and you won't get cleared. Your employer shouldn't be reading the form that is sent to the DVA as it will have financial and medical information on it.

    Also be very open and honest about your finances, medical stuff, everything really, again if your found to be dishonest they won't clear you.
    Last edited by the_duderama; 20 October 2009, 14:44.

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  • malvolio
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    If anyone has failed, they won't know the reason. It's not something to discuss in the wild anyway.

    The whole test is two questions: "Can you be blackmailed?". and "Does this guy tell the truth?". Adjusting a CV is merely sharp salemanship. I know people with SC who have fairly serious crimes in their history who have been honest about them so no problem. Equally I've known people "not mention" a trivial criminal offence like possession and wonder why they failed SC.

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