Reply to: SC clearance

[Mr.Whippy]

A few forms, an interview, an in-depth credit check, a look thorugh your personal finances, an in-depth check on you past political history, an in-depth check on your crimonal record (real or imaginary), formal interviews of friends and family, informal interviews wiht past employees and colleagues, a check on all your trips outside the UK ....

Yeah, trivial. Can't see what the fuss is about.

I didnt say it was a "trivial" matter...

You only actually fill in the forms (yes, they're in-depth and that can take some time) and have a lengthy interview.

All the investigative work mentioned above is done by other people in the background as part of the vetting process. So, it's not exactly a load of hassle but it's not trivial either.

Also, I would hope that if you lost it you would soon realise when the burly security guards turn up at your desk!

[SuperZ]

Generally, DV tends to increase your daily rate a good amount. So personally I'd love to go through the "hassle" of getting cleared.... It's only a few forms and an interview... doesnt seem like a lot of hassle to me

I meant the hassle of continually transfering it, maintaining it. So when you get your DV clearance report back when you`re told after landing a new gig that you can`t start for another x weeks until yet another BC is done, tell me it`s not a hassle.

I don`t think it`s £150 more a day. I`m seeing DV cleared jobs advertised at low rates at the moment

You can also easily lose it also, without realising it

[Bod]

A few forms, an interview, an in-depth credit check, a look thorugh your personal finances, an in-depth check on you past political history, an in-depth check on your crimonal record (real or imaginary), formal interviews of friends and family, informal interviews wiht past employees and colleagues, a check on all your trips outside the UK ....

Yeah, trivial. Can't see what the fuss is about.

Sounds like a good trade for an extra £150/day

[malvolio]

Generally, DV tends to increase your daily rate a good amount. So personally I'd love to go through the "hassle" of getting cleared.... It's only a few forms and an interview... doesnt seem like a lot of hassle to me

A few forms, an interview, an in-depth credit check, a look thorugh your personal finances, an in-depth check on you past political history, an in-depth check on your crimonal record (real or imaginary), formal interviews of friends and family, informal interviews wiht past employees and colleagues, a check on all your trips outside the UK ....

Yeah, trivial. Can't see what the fuss is about.

[Mr.Whippy]

I`ve said it once and I`ll say it again, Security Clearance can be more hassle than it`s worth I`ve heard.

Generally, DV tends to increase your daily rate a good amount. So personally I'd love to go through the "hassle" of getting cleared.... It's only a few forms and an interview... doesnt seem like a lot of hassle to me

[Bod]

I`ve said it once and I`ll say it again, Security Clearance can be more hassle than it`s worth I`ve heard.

more hassle for whom, the DVA ?

[SuperZ]

I`ve said it once and I`ll say it again, Security Clearance can be more hassle than it`s worth I`ve heard.

[malvolio]

It costs, but those costs have to be budgetted for in the original cost justification. Similarly, prime contractors have to reserve funds to manage uncleared personnel. So it's not a money issue, unless of course you would rather not spend the money by not taking on uncleared people...

Simples...

[digerido]

From what I have seen I don't think the end client suffers from to much inconvenience when putting someone through the clearance. It's just a case of waiting.

Doesn't it cost though?

[George Parr]

who told you that?

Ahhhhhhhhhh the agency!!!

Why would they lie? If the client wants only cleared applicants then they aren't going to waste their time and slots submitting a non-cleared CV. If on the other hand the client were to say he prefers SC but will clear an individual who is an otherwise ideal match then they would submit that surely?

All said and done they want to make money so they will submit whoever they think is most likely to get the gig.

[tino]

The agency is acting on their client's instruction. The agencies I have spoken to simply aren't interested in non-cleared applicants, however well the skill set may match, because it is too much hassle for their client even for long contracts.

who told you that?

Ahhhhhhhhhh the agency!!!

[malvolio]

Which is a guranteed way for you tto be thrown off site two days later.

Ermm, well done...

[George Parr]

The problem is not getting clearance - it's not actually that hard - but getting the damn agency to put you forward for the role without it (which is against the rules, but hey ho). The client can't offer to clear you if they don't know you exist and have no visibility of your skills...

The agency is acting on their client's instruction. The agencies I have spoken to simply aren't interested in non-cleared applicants, however well the skill set may match, because it is too much hassle for their client even for long contracts.

[swamp]

Just tell them you already have it

[malvolio]

The problem is not getting clearance - it's not actually that hard - but getting the damn agency to put you forward for the role without it (which is against the rules, but hey ho). The client can't offer to clear you if they don't know you exist and have no visibility of your skills...