SC clearance and Criminal Record

[CaptainChaos]

Thanks everyone, I have to submit the form next week. I can't hold it off any longer

I'll post the result when I get it, this could be helpful for anyone else in a similar position. Hopefully I will be looked upon favourably like Bryn. I hope whoever assesses me had a good game of golf the day before

[Bryn Rogers]

Captain,

Dont bother with the Cop Shop, just declare what you did and when you did it. I am SC cleared and got a record in 1980 for some minor thieving,.. yeah a long time ago just like you.

The only problem is the embarrasment of showing your form to the guy you hand it too. Otherwise it aint a problem!

Good luck.

[TykeMerc]

Thanks Guys, I think I had better go down to the local cop shop and see what I can find out regarding the Subject Access Request. They also want traffic offences too (I was up to 9 points for speeding some years ago and I can't remember those dates either ) so I hope they can shed light on those too, or I may be sounding very vague when I fill in the form which may appear as an attempt to evade full disclosure...

When it comes to motoring convictions years ago that you can't remember I believe* it's acceptable to state in the notes section that they exist, but you simply can't recall the details.

*Note obviously not from personal experience as stating you're cleared is arguably naughty.....

[CaptainChaos]

Thanks Guys, I think I had better go down to the local cop shop and see what I can find out regarding the Subject Access Request. They also want traffic offences too (I was up to 9 points for speeding some years ago and I can't remember those dates either ) so I hope they can shed light on those too, or I may be sounding very vague when I fill in the form which may appear as an attempt to evade full disclosure...

[Mr.Whippy]

When i got a job with a top bank in London, i had to go through the same checks. I was worried at first cause I've also been a naughty boy in my young years. I didn't declare anything on my application form as the offence was "time spent" and you don't have to declare it if it is(unless it states you have to declare all time spent in your application).

Are you sure it was SC?

As for not declaring it, that's very bad advice imo because I'm pretty sure you didn't go through the same process. It's been a while since I filled in one, but I'm sure that it says all convictions/cautions with the exception of parking offences should be detailed. Even if the conviction is spent you should still include it because it will still be on your record as will a formal caution.

To the OP, to find out the dates/details of your conviction you should check your local police force's website for a "Subject Access Request" form. They should have one for the local force and one for the police national computer records. It costs about £10 and a couple of weeks to get any information they hold on you. If you dont have time to wait, just put on the form that it was c.20 years ago and put what details you do know. They'll know it all anyway and as long as you've put it down there shouldnt be a problem.

I was in a similar situation to you, stupid mistake 20 years ago due to vast amount of alcohol consumed on New Years Eve

When I went through SC a couple of years ago I did a Subject Access Request. I am now cleared so as others have said a conviction/record wont automatically stop you getting clearance, but being dishonest will! So, be totally honest, don't try to hide anything.

Good luck

[NickNick]

The woman who sits next to me here on client site has a criminal record (Possesion of a deadly weapon and possesion of a controlled substance) and she was SC cleared. As other have said, declare is and take it from there.

[Churchill]

Thanks guys, that's reassuring. Do you think it will cause a problem with me not being able to pinpoint the exact year and offence? I can only recall being about 18/19 and the offence was either theft / criminal damage, possibly both...
Should I try nad get a CRB check on myself before I start?
Cheers.

Just had a chat with my old man about this (he's an ex-copper), he suggested that you go to your local "nick" and have a chat with the friendly desk sergeant explaining that you don't have the full dates and that you're applying for a job where these details are required.

Good luck!

[Moscow Mule]

Should I try nad get a CRB check on myself before I start?

As an individual, you can't get a CRB check - it has to be requested by an accredited organisation.

I wouldn't worry unduly. Just put down a rough date & offence - they'll be perfectly capable of pulling up the relevant details.

[beemarman]

Hi,

To be honest i don't think you have anything to worry about, as the offence was committed years ago and it was nothing serious.


When i got a job with a top bank in London, i had to go through the same checks. I was worried at first cause I've also been a naughty boy in my young years. I didn't declare anything on my application form as the offence was "time spent" and you don't have to declare it if it is(unless it states you have to declare all time spent in your application).

After 1 month of worrying, it all came back clean.

http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg...mId=1073793847



http://www.crb.gov.uk/Default.aspx?page=313

[NotAllThere]

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You seal it in an envelope so the client should never know....

Wasn't there a case where the agent opened this envelope reported on this board?

[CaptainChaos]

Thanks guys, that's reassuring. Do you think it will cause a problem with me not being able to pinpoint the exact year and offence? I can only recall being about 18/19 and the offence was either theft / criminal damage, possibly both...
Should I try nad get a CRB check on myself before I start?
Cheers.

[The Lone Gunman]

As the others have said, they are looking at your honesty.
They do not want people with dirty secrets as they are open to blackmail.
A string of convictions may cause problems, but a one off years ago will be OK as long as it is declared.
You seal it in an envelope so the client should never know.
Being massively in debt is an issue as you are open to bribery.
Oddly, having too much money may be an issue, particularly if you can not account for the excess.

Just come clean with it all. You will be OK. If not then there is nothing you can do as you can not hide anything.

[malvolio]

Thing to remember is, they will know about any old convictions and the like anyway: the test is to see if you mention them. If you don't, you will fail clearance no matter how good you are. It doesn't matter if you murdered your granny, if both sides know about it, it can't be used against you.

[TheFaQQer]

As long as you declare your convictions etc. then you should be OK - I can't remember off hand what the time period is for "spent convictions".

Usually, they are more worried about whether you are ashamed of it (and therefore a possible blackmail target) rather than what you did.

If you fail the SC, then they will just march you off-site - you'll still bill them for the work up until that point. Happened to someone I was working with this year - he was there for the first four days, and hasn't been seen since.

[CaptainChaos]

Hi Everyone,
I've just scored a contract to permanent role where they require me to go through SC clearance. The plan is I work with non sensitive data first until I get SC. As a result of mixing with some dubious types when I was young I got into a spot of bother with the law. It was a stupid petty theft / criminal damage moment of madness which happened when I was around 18, I can't remember what the charges were as it was nearly 25 years ago now. Has anyone ever got SC clearance with a criminal record. I haven't done nothing naughty since that event, it is the only blot in my copy book. I realised the error of my ways at the time and sought a new less risky social circle! Otherwise everything else with regards to background and credit checking should be 100% fine.
Should I make my excuses now? Thanks...