Reply to: Relocation

[tim123]

My costs while away from home are usually much higher than £100 per day initially, mainly due to having enough of the £40-£100 B&B's and forking out the extra for a decent hotel (I like a decent bed thanks - though price is not always an indication of a decent bed)
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The most comfy bed that I got was in the Premiere Inn.

Couldn't fault the room at all for 60 quid a night. Unfortunately, travel arrangements mean that I needed 5 nights and 300 quid off my meagre hourly rate wasn't sustainable for the long term

tim

[s2budd]

My costs while away from home are usually much higher than £100 per day initially, mainly due to having enough of the £40-£100 B&B's and forking out the extra for a decent hotel (I like a decent bed thanks - though price is not always an indication of a decent bed)

So initially my costs could be as much as £200 per day for the first couple of weeks then I find digs (rent flat or room) which brings the cost down.

Usually I find that living away from home costs in total about £1k per month - add or take away £100 or so and this does not seem to have changed much in about ten years or so of gigs away from home unless I go for the £40 per night B&B specials which I find a bit depressing and difficult to sleep in (usually). Anyway that's my 1 cents worth.

[tim123]

Judging by the OP, the person is living in london and has a family. So the OP will need to factor into the equation the cost of paying the bills for the property in London (whether it is rented or owned) as well as the cost of living away from home. Without the details of the OP's outgoings in their current location, I cannot presume to know what (s)he can or cannot live on.

Rubbish. All you need "extra" is the cost of a short term rental (say 6-800 per month or 30-40 per working day) in the new location and, perhaps, the travel costs.

All the other costs, he was going to have anyway.

I say "perhaps" for the travel costs because if he has to commute daily when living at home it could be that the cost of a longer trip once a week, isn't any more expensive.

tim

[expat]

Flights, hotels, etc for Germany, for example, should cost let's say 2000.00 a month. So if you find a contract in Germany that pays 100.00 per day more than the contract that you would otherwise get in London, it's a winner in the accounts, if not the quality of commute.

If you need at least 700/day for away, doesn't that mean that you need at least 600/day for London? Do you always get that? I personally work away because I can't find as good, or anything like it, or anything at all, at home.

Edit: short version - Turion is spot-on.

[pmeswani]

A creamy egg based drink?

Or even armadilo bars. Soft on the outside, crunchy on the inside. Ahhh...those dime bar ad's.

[NickNick]

In a matter of speaking I would agree. I was playing the advocat on this one. The OP really needs to explain the rationale behind the request for a hike.

A creamy egg based drink?

[pmeswani]

The costs of paying his bills in London are not going to suddenly go up because he has a gig elsewhere in the country. If he can get a weeks worth of B&B and food for say £200 then he only needs to increase his rate by £200 a week, or £40/day to make it workable.

I do think the OP is overstating his costs somewhat.....

In a matter of speaking I would agree. I was playing the advocat on this one. The OP really needs to explain the rationale behind the request for a hike.

[Ardesco]

Judging by the OP, the person is living in london and has a family. So the OP will need to factor into the equation the cost of paying the bills for the property in London (whether it is rented or owned) as well as the cost of living away from home. Without the details of the OP's outgoings in their current location, I cannot presume to know what (s)he can or cannot live on.

The costs of paying his bills in London are not going to suddenly go up because he has a gig elsewhere in the country. If he can get a weeks worth of B&B and food for say £200 then he only needs to increase his rate by £200 a week, or £40/day to make it workable.

I do think the OP is overstating his costs somewhat.....

[Turion]

Judging by the OP, the person is living in london and has a family. So the OP will need to factor into the equation the cost of paying the bills for the property in London (whether it is rented or owned) as well as the cost of living away from home. Without the details of the OP's outgoings in their current location, I cannot presume to know what (s)he can or cannot live on.

Bull. You and the OP need to get real. Factor this in. Can the OP afford to live on nothing? I assume that the OP has posted because they are or soon will be benched. Assuming it is a UK contract, total weekly live away expenses should not exceed £100/day. Many contractors will spend much less as we have seen. To say you need £700/day to work away from home is the stuff of fairy tales.

[pmeswani]

Please explain.....I could understand the costs being a lot higher if the OP living outside of London but had a contract in London......from experience 4 nights in and around London works out at about twice as much as most other 'provincial' places I have worked...PLUS you get the pleasure of being completely ripped off by Virgin for the pleasure of being crammed onto a 7 o'clock train with half the rest of the world.

Judging by the OP, the person is living in london and has a family. So the OP will need to factor into the equation the cost of paying the bills for the property in London (whether it is rented or owned) as well as the cost of living away from home. Without the details of the OP's outgoings in their current location, I cannot presume to know what (s)he can or cannot live on.

[JoJoGabor]

You need to become an MP, then you can claim around £100k a year for your second residence! Is anyone here a contract MP? How do I break into this field?

[NotAllThere]

In 1995: £25/hour. Drove 3 hours Monday morning. Back Friday evening. Paid £60 a week lodgings. Six months in, worked from home Monday and Friday, so just two nights away from home. £30 - room in shared house.

In 1998: £450 a day. Drove 3 hours Monday morning, back Thursday pm. ( Opposite direction to 1995 - since then I'd moved house). Paid £70 for lodgings - full board!

In 2005: £450 a day. Flew in Monday morning, back Friday evening. Room in shared house - £100 a week.

I've 3 kids.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Don't forget the OP's commitments in his primary location. The cost could be a lot higher than you think.

Please explain.....I could understand the costs being a lot higher if the OP living outside of London but had a contract in London......from experience 4 nights in and around London works out at about twice as much as most other 'provincial' places I have worked...PLUS you get the pleasure of being completely ripped off by Virgin for the pleasure of being crammed onto a 7 o'clock train with half the rest of the world.

[pmeswani]

So a turnover of £168000 is required to fund a £50 hotel for 4 nights a week (£11K a year tax deductible)

I'd look at your maths again.

Don't forget the OP's commitments in his primary location. The cost could be a lot higher than you think.

[Pondlife]

On these forums, posts seems to encourage being flexible in terms of work location when looking for contracts. But I’m intrigued how this works for others with families, as well as for those primarily living in London. We rent in London and there is no way, unless I was to be paid upwards of 700 a day, that I could afford to finance a secondary place. How do others do it? I suspect people being able to relocate are those without families and so are not tied to one place?

So a turnover of £168000 is required to fund a £50 hotel for 4 nights a week (£11K a year tax deductible)

I'd look at your maths again.