Reply to: Misdirection

[pmeswani]

This DV application stuff sounds like a load of pants for a contractor to go through. I wouldn't bother, but then I don't do F2F interviews either. Get everything sorted by phone.

The application process takes anything between 6 weeks to 1 year. So it wouldn't be worth it unless you are looking at a contract that lasts for more than 1 year, or if you are prepared to wait a year before you start working there. (Worst case scenario).

[Turion]

This DV application stuff sounds like a load of pants for a contractor to go through. I wouldn't bother, but then I don't do F2F interviews either. Get everything sorted by phone.

[pmeswani]

To which you replied - I was quite disappointed with the question.

I was tempted, but couldn't bring myself to say it. :P

That I find puzzling. From what else you've said, you imply that family = blood relatives , rather than kids + spouse. Once your an adult, you can do what you like. If they don't like it; tough. They've a choice - put up, or cut off contact.

It's not like it's hard to disappear enough to make tracing you reasonably difficult. And it they still won't disappear, take out a restraining order.

I'm not criticizing here, I'm genuinely baffled.

Would it help if I said that I need a roof over my head? Currently living at home, have some personal debts...only savings I have personally accumulated is my pension (not much of one to be honest). Once I have given up the gambling habit, I'll save up some money for a deposit for a new house and wait for the Credit Crunch Crisis to die down significantly.

[NotAllThere]

.... One (of the three) interviewers muttered the words "Disappointed with the answer" ...

To which you replied - I was quite disappointed with the question.

However, if you know my family, they would firmly place a solid steel boot up my posterier if they ever found out what I do week in / week out

That I find puzzling. From what else you've said, you imply that family = blood relatives , rather than kids + spouse. Once your an adult, you can do what you like. If they don't like it; tough. They've a choice - put up, or cut off contact.

It's not like it's hard to disappear enough to make tracing you reasonably difficult. And it they still won't disappear, take out a restraining order.

I'm not criticizing here, I'm genuinely baffled.

[voodooflux]

Next you will be telling me that Yellow Pages ad's will feature it as well.

LMAO "I'm after a copy of Dogging for Beginners by J. R. Hartley..."

[pmeswani]

It's what J.R. Hartley moved on to afterwards

Next you will be telling me that Yellow Pages ad's will feature it as well.

[voodooflux]

Is that related to Fly Fishing by any chance?

It's what J.R. Hartley moved on to afterwards

[pmeswani]

It's your subscription to "Dogging Monthly" that you're trying to hide isn't it

Is that related to Fly Fishing by any chance?

[Sausage Surprise]

It's your subscription to "Dogging Monthly" that you're trying to hide isn't it

[pmeswani]

But this was the job interview?

If my memory serves me, my DV interview / chat lasted about an hour and although we discussed topics such as finances, personal relationships it wasnt as uncomfortable as i was led to believe / expected.

I would have now reservations with going through the process again.

Alan

It was an interview for a contract. Some will call it a job interview, some will call it a contract meeting, some will call it something else. I'll leave it up to you to call it whatever you want.

I'm quite open about my finances with everyone other than my parents. I've never had a relationship before... don't really have any friends... a bit of a loner. I would probably buckle under the pressure in the interview. Would end up making up that I went out with Keira Knightley just to shut 'em up.

[AlanR]

One (of the three) interviewers...

But this was the job interview?

If my memory serves me, my DV interview / chat lasted about an hour and although we discussed topics such as finances, personal relationships it wasnt as uncomfortable as i was led to believe / expected.

I would have now reservations with going through the process again.

Alan

[pmeswani]

I was Dv'ed for a position in Berkshire (sure you know where) and the only person the DVA spoke to me was me. They didnt contact / speak to my wife, mother, father, brothers, sister, anybody that i am aware of.

I know a lot of people get hung up on DV but i didnt find anything untoward with it, as long as you are honest and up front.

I know of somebody who had a fair bit of debt through a failed business venture who went through the DV process, he told them about it, what he was doing about it etc and he had no problems.

I would recommend that if the position is one that want do not let the DV process be the reason for not pursing it.

Alan

In this particular occasion it wasn't the only reason. One (of the three) interviewers muttered the words "Disappointed with the answer" after I attempted to answer his qustion and the other interviewers were stiff necked for a long part of the interview... that pretty much sealed it for me. It also didn't help that one of their questions were vague... even after I asked them to clarify.

[AlanR]

DV should not be the (only) reason to decline

I was Dv'ed for a position in Berkshire (sure you know where) and the only person the DVA spoke to me was me. They didnt contact / speak to my wife, mother, father, brothers, sister, anybody that i am aware of.

I know a lot of people get hung up on DV but i didnt find anything untoward with it, as long as you are honest and up front.

I know of somebody who had a fair bit of debt through a failed business venture who went through the DV process, he told them about it, what he was doing about it etc and he had no problems.

I would recommend that if the position is one that want do not let the DV process be the reason for not pursing it.

Alan

[voodooflux]

Contact the help desk at the defence vetting agency to talk about your concerns.

Sounds like sensible advice.

Don't forget the DVA use experienced interrogators.

They don't resort to waterboarding do they!?

[TykeMerc]

Don't mind the digging around bit. Don't want info to be passed onto relatives / references, especially when it comes to questioning credibility, etc.

Oh they wouldn't disclose information to your relatives deliberately and they would avoid implying stuff in their questions too. Don't forget the DVA use experienced interrogators.

My objections are on the grounds that I'm a private person so don't want someone rummaging around in my life to that extent.