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Originally posted by Turion View PostWere you starting the gig in the afternoon then?
Sudden Gig Cancellation (SGC) is another contracting risk. Clauses in the contract allow no notice cancellation of gigs for any reason if they have not already started. Another reason one should not celebrate until you are actually on site and working. Personally, even after I accept an offer, I do not cancel interviews and keep applying for gigs right up until I'm on site for this very reason - and the fact that something better may come up.
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Originally posted by Turion View PostPrecisely, things just don't smell right. Doubt we'll get a staight answer though. Probably more abuse.
I also refunded the car parking, but since they charge a £45 handling fee, that wasn't exactly a zero-sum transaction either.
As for the programme being cancellable, it wasn't: since it was a major corporate upgrade, it's still going on and will be for another year or so. What happened was a partner decided he wanted to be in charge so moved the ownership, deleted the original funding stream and put his own people in charge. Petty corporate politics at its best, nothing to do with good business practice.
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Originally posted by Turion View PostPrecisely, things just don't smell right. Doubt we'll get a staight answer though. Probably more abuse.
silly bunt
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Originally posted by tim123 View PostI'm not fully understandng this discussion.
Train season tickets can be returned for a refund.
Ok, so you lose something, but nowhere near not the whole lot.
tim
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I'm not fully understandng this discussion.
Train season tickets can be returned for a refund.
Ok, so you lose something, but nowhere near not the whole lot.
tim
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostBalls. Quarterly ticket for a job scheduled to take around 9 months is not so stupid, bringing the daily cost down to around £50 a day for a 1st Class moderately long-distance commute into London.
What's a notice period then? The time it takes some contractors to smell the coffee, I assume.
And bizarre as it may seem, the £2k was paid for out of the hiring manager's budget as compensation for having to muck around a fellow professional. Strictly speaking, it was cost of sales lost by the client defaulting on a signed agreement. I'm not going to sue for lost business, I will claim out-of-pocket expenses when they were caused by the client's actions.
So I'm afraid we're looking at this from different ends of the spectrum. "Permie-thinking" rather implies a master-slave relationship. Well that's fine, but I generally work as the Master...
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Originally posted by Turion View PostAgree, unless it the Orient Express . £2k of advance train tickets and parking for a contract seems a tad over the top, especially for a no notice contract. A bit permyish in some ways. A weekly ticket would be my limit.
My point was, that if they paid £2k of expenses, when they did not have to (unless reimbursement of such expenses was written in the contract), they maybe would have paid compensation for project cancellation as well.
What's a notice period then? The time it takes some contractors to smell the coffee, I assume.
And bizarre as it may seem, the £2k was paid for out of the hiring manager's budget as compensation for having to muck around a fellow professional. Strictly speaking, it was cost of sales lost by the client defaulting on a signed agreement. I'm not going to sue for lost business, I will claim out-of-pocket expenses when they were caused by the client's actions.
So I'm afraid we're looking at this from different ends of the spectrum. "Permie-thinking" rather implies a master-slave relationship. Well that's fine, but I generally work as the Master...
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Originally posted by thunderlizard View PostWow, I wouldn't have bought £2k's worth of train tickets before I'd even been on site to check the lie of the land. But I've always been the "glass half empty" type.
Turion, with your "compensation for notice period" idea - you're assuming (I think) that having x days notice period means x days' 9-to-5 bum-on-seat-style constant billing. If I know our Malvolio, that isn't his style (nor mine).
Agree, unless it the Orient Express . £2k of advance train tickets and parking for a contract seems a tad over the top, especially for a no notice contract. A bit permyish in some ways. A weekly ticket would be my limit.
My point was, that if they paid £2k of expenses, when they did not have to (unless reimbursement of such expenses was written in the contract), they maybe would have paid compensation for project cancellation as well.
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Wow, I wouldn't have bought £2k's worth of train tickets before I'd even been on site to check the lie of the land. But I've always been the "glass half empty" type.
Turion, with your "compensation for notice period" idea - you're assuming (I think) that having x days notice period means x days' 9-to-5 bum-on-seat-style constant billing. If I know our Malvolio, that isn't his style (nor mine).
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostYes they did pay the invoice, they would have got sued if they hadn't anyway - I'm not losing close to £2k without an argument.
Yes, 5 working hours - I was going to start 8:30 Tuesday, they binned it at 11:30 on Monday. Also I'm not exactly a BoS coder or Helpdesk guy after all. The meeting was the previous Thursday, gig and rate settled, project defined and basic attack plan agreed on the Friday. Contract signed and faxed back on Monday morning. So I felt reasopnably safe to stop chasing other work...
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Yes they did pay the invoice, they would have got sued if they hadn't anyway - I'm not losing close to £2k without an argument.
Yes, 5 working hours - I was going to start 8:30 Tuesday, they binned it at 11:30 on Monday. Also I'm not exactly a BoS coder or Helpdesk guy after all. The meeting was the previous Thursday, gig and rate settled, project defined and basic attack plan agreed on the Friday. Contract signed and faxed back on Monday morning. So I felt reasopnably safe to stop chasing other work...
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