stacking contracts inside + outside?

[Eirikur]

I'm doing this at the moment and have doen it in the past. One FTC and one outside IR35 contract. Salary from FTC pays for everything, contract goes mostly to my pension pot. i have even time left and looking for a second outside contract part-time.

Just don't tell anybody you're doing this and don't mention anything on your LinkedIn for either job.

[northernladuk]

i have two opportunities currently - one inside IR35 role and one outside IR35 role. My idea is to try and run them in parallel, workload and deadlines permitting etc of course. I would be through an umbrella for the inside one and my own PSC for the outside one.

Ah the old contractor fantasy. In very rare situations, possible. In general, not a chance.

I am assuming the inside gig client would be less supportive of this, given they are by definition paying for my time (full time) and not my outputs...

If less supportive means breach of contract then you are correct. As much as it should be so, you'll be surprised how few outside gigs work on an output scenario. They'll probably be very unhappy as well. If you can't tell them then then it's unlikely they'll be happy.

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I filled the inside gig agency docs a while back now, but I seem to recall clicking a checkbox in an onboarding portal which may have said something akin to I promise that I won't work anywhere else whilst i am in doing work with them. Is this sort of thing enforceable, or is it more a sort of pressure move?[quote]
It's likely this statement will occur in two places, the contract between the client and umbrella and then in the contract between you and the umbrella?

Is it enforceable? About as enforceable as the clause where you get paid. You can't pick and chose which clauses you don't like and ignore them.

I haven't had the contract through for the inside role yet, and so I wouldn't see if there are any clauses to this end... (can they even do that?), but my contract would be with the umbrella anyway...?

any guidance welcomed, thanks

Think very hard about this. It's a pipedream for most of us to have two gigs but the reality is totally different. You will be expected to do a full day on at least the inside gig, and I'll bet the second. Work will ebb and flow and get very busy at times so you will 100% be welching on work for at least one client at anyone time. Don't try kid yourself that you can do it in the time needed and that you can get anywhere near the expectations of either client.

[ladymuck]

So, the outside role is 100% remote, fully flexible hours, no requirement to attend any meetings between the 0830-1730 period that you'll be working for the inside gig, and you've agreed payment on delivery of specific outcomes and not an hourly/daily rate?

If not, then what you're saying is that you think you will be able to do two full time jobs, charge both for full time work but only work half the hours on each. That sounds like a fine breach of contract scenario and, at best, you could end up being sacked.

[stuartianmac]

i have two opportunities currently - one inside IR35 role and one outside IR35 role. My idea is to try and run them in parallel, workload and deadlines permitting etc of course. I would be through an umbrella for the inside one and my own PSC for the outside one.

I am assuming the inside gig client would be less supportive of this, given they are by definition paying for my time (full time) and not my outputs...

I filled the inside gig agency docs a while back now, but I seem to recall clicking a checkbox in an onboarding portal which may have said something akin to I promise that I won't work anywhere else whilst i am in doing work with them. Is this sort of thing enforceable, or is it more a sort of pressure move?

I haven't had the contract through for the inside role yet, and so I wouldn't see if there are any clauses to this end... (can they even do that?), but my contract would be with the umbrella anyway...?

any guidance welcomed, thanks