Reply to: Advice for first time contractor?

[northernladuk]

45k posts yet can't reply to a simple question. What a loser.

I'm a loser because I don't answer your stupid question about your stupid situation? Guess I'll have to take that one on the chin.

Question backatcha... What do you gain from doing that? Actually. Don't answer that. I don't care.

You failed. Move on.

[fiju]

There's nothing to grasp. They either pay the money, or don't. They're just leeches, and get treated as such.

[perplexed]

45k posts yet can't reply to a simple question. What a loser.

He replies to many questions, simple or otherwise.

Your inability to grasp contracting isn't his problem, it's yours.

[BR14]

move to general, please??

[fiju]

45k posts yet can't reply to a simple question. What a loser.

[fiju]

What problem would that be? You seem to think that I have something to lose.

[northernladuk]

Well thanks for the help. I didn't think it would do any harm to speak to the client, after all, what have I got to lose?

The agent has tried calling and emailing me a few times over the past couple of days. I've ignored it so far. Part of me feels like telling him to suck a dick...

That's gonna sort the problem. Way to go.

[fiju]

Well thanks for the help. I didn't think it would do any harm to speak to the client, after all, what have I got to lose?

The agent has tried calling and emailing me a few times over the past couple of days. I've ignored it so far. Part of me feels like telling him to suck a dick...

[NotAllThere]

That's true to be fair but it does come with considerable risk which has to be considered.

That's also true. You have to have a good relationship with the client before trying that kind of stuff. Or at least know the client hates the agent as much as you do!

[northernladuk]

There's two schools of thought concerning that.

That's true to be fair but it does come with considerable risk which has to be considered.

[NotAllThere]

You shouldn't be speaking to the client about rates.

There's two schools of thought concerning that.

[northernladuk]

They initially told me £300 LTD.

I have spoken to the client, who revealed that they have not agreed a rate with the agent as of yet. The terms are on a set banding or something like that. How should I play this?

Btw the agent is still trying to push me towards a CIS, and I still can't work out if that's beneficial.

You shouldn't be speaking to the client about rates. That's nothing to do with you. That's between the client and the agent. If you find out so early what the client pays the agent things will get very heated between you and the agent when they apply their factoring which you will undoubtedly not agree with whatever it is. You don't know their business/costs/margins so won't understand why they want to take what they want.

I'd be willing to bet that isn't true either so by your book the client is lying again. By pushing for information people haven't got or aren't willing to give you you are opening yourself up to being lied to to some extent.

Again, I am surprised after all this the agent is still even speaking to you. The hole you are digging is getting deeper and deeper and close to falling through.

Your contractual agreement is with the agency only so as much as you don't like it only speak to them.

Nothing to play. You've got an offer, you've countered offered so wait. Use the time to research the CIS scheme to find out what would be best for you.

[eek]

You should walk away and take the perm role. The agency have lied to you more than once, they tried to reduce your rate by a third. Ignore the misdirection of salary bands and job titles. Neither should apply if you're a proper contractor (sure you're not fixed term or other?).

Take the PAYE gig - for 2 grand difference you'll get paid holidays, bank holidays, sick leave, training etc etc.

By the sounds of it for £8k more you'll get paid holidays, bank holidays, sick leave, training etc etc.

[Epiphone]

How should I play this?

You should walk away and take the perm role. The agency have lied to you more than once, they tried to reduce your rate by a third. Ignore the misdirection of salary bands and job titles. Neither should apply if you're a proper contractor (sure you're not fixed term or other?).

Take the PAYE gig - for 2 grand difference you'll get paid holidays, bank holidays, sick leave, training etc etc.

[fiju]

They initially told me £300 LTD.

I have spoken to the client, who revealed that they have not agreed a rate with the agent as of yet. The terms are on a set banding or something like that. How should I play this?

Btw the agent is still trying to push me towards a CIS, and I still can't work out if that's beneficial.