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[LondonManc]

I'm shocked people are saying £750 p/day for Docker, it's a commodity skill that a decent first year could pick up in about 2 weeks (I've seen many do it).

A perm equivalent rate for a docker consultant would be £40/50k so if you are getting £750 a day for this good luck to you, but you are robbing the client blind and you'll get pulled-up on it one day very soon

OP said good. The definition of good does vary considerably in IT.

[oilboil]

I'm shocked people are saying £750 p/day for Docker, it's a commodity skill that a decent first year could pick up in about 2 weeks (I've seen many do it).

A perm equivalent rate for a docker consultant would be £40/50k so if you are getting £750 a day for this good luck to you, but you are robbing the client blind and you'll get pulled-up on it one day very soon

[Paralytic]

Ok, so I have a question: why would a "property development firm" have any use for Docker?

This would seem to be a needless complication to an office architecture and that will likely cost more money, and introduce more infrastructure risk, to their operating model in the long-term.

Seems odd.

What is the use case?

It sounds like the client is not technically minded and someone has told them that Docker is the latest and greatest technology and they should utilise that, without taking the time to actually understand their needs.

If all you've got is a hammer....

[wattaj]

...The client are friends and customers of mine, they are a property development firm and they pay promptly. (They do payment runs to suppliers fortnightly).

Ok, so I have a question: why would a "property development firm" have any use for Docker?

This would seem to be a needless complication to an office architecture and that will likely cost more money and introduce more infrastructure risk to their operating model in the long-term.

Seems odd.

What is the use case?

[fool]

Even the higher end of the scale sounds low if you consider TCO, but it depends on what you're doing with them.

If someone's deploying a static site that doesn't store any data, fair enough, but if you're actually using docker for anything useful, you need to consider compliance and change control.

• Writing Dockerfiles. Best practices, et all. Image layering, multi-stage, minimal targets, establishing trust, don't be root, etc.
• Committing them and controlling them via SDLC. Adding assurance such as protected branches and peer review, so one single silly admin doesn't have rights to push dockerrepo/reverseTunnel:sh
• CI/CD to deliver them to docker server; removes issue of deploying wrong image either maliciously or accidentally. Adding tests
• Target Deployment: hardening, threat modelling, environment strategy, patching, finOps.
• Protective monitoring: what to do when dockerrepo/reverseTunnel:sh is deployed. How to detect and stop it.

Given that docker itself is almost the easiest thing in the world, if someone is buying training I'm going to assume they don't have the SDLC down. I can bootstrap and upskill a team to do this for you longer term but I'd be asking £1300.

[perplexed]

And their team will probably expect you to train them for free during the exercise... win-lose.

FYP.

[GigiBronz]

Accenture would charge 2K plus for each of a team and project manager to do this

And their team will probably learn alongside yours during the exercise... win-win.

[Old Greg]

Accenture would charge 2K plus for each of a team and project manager to do this

You would get a free intern for added value.

[LondonPM1]

Up my street, but as said, for ad-hoc it's 700+, but does depend on complexities.

Accenture would charge 2K plus for each of a team and project manager to do this

[TheGreenBastard]

Up my street, but as said, for ad-hoc it's 700+, but does depend on complexities.

[Scruff]

£500 sounds way too little for a Docker-Dicker, particularly for a short term ad hoc contract.

I'd suggest closer to £750

[courtg9000]

I’m too busy to help, but to answer the direct question you should expect to pay £500 a day minimum for someone who can do the work, document and be able to handover and train.
Budget for 500-650 and you’ll find what you want.

Thank You

[Lance]

I’m too busy to help, but to answer the direct question you should expect to pay £500 a day minimum for someone who can do the work, document and be able to handover and train.
Budget for 500-650 and you’ll find what you want.

[courtg9000]

Whats the going rate for a good Docker chap or chapess?

Does anyone of this parish want a few days Docker work sometime in the next few weeks?

Job is to setup docker and run a few people through deploying images, administration etc
Client will accept everything being done remotely.
The client's site is not currently social distancing "safe".
The client are friends and customers of mine, they are a property development firm and they pay promptly. (They do payment runs to suppliers fortnightly).
They will want a reference or two.
I am taking a small commission for the placement (A good bottle of scotch if anyone is that interested)