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[MrMarkyMark]

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+1
Should be a large one to cover costs of a possible investigation as you are switching to BAU work, unless you have a new contract to cover it?

[GhostofTarbera]

No something far worse...

Boss said no more extensions on my 3+ year gig after current contract ends (June). But now all the permies have been furloughed so i'm holding the fort all by myself whilst they get a 2 month paid holiday.

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[Robinho]

No something far worse...

Boss said no more extensions on my 3+ year gig after current contract ends (June). But now all the permies have been furloughed so i'm holding the fort all by myself whilst they get a 2 month paid holiday.

[northernladuk]

So for an update.
Project is officially on pause, all projects are on pause. For all contractors it means if they want to stay on they can but get moved to do other work as the perm numbers are down.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

For me it means it means I am going to do 2 days on my current project (winding down, finishing documentation) and 3 days helping out with BAU Support.
I have asked my agency to issue me with a new contract for the 3 days. Completely different role (IT Support Engineer) and to run it inside of IR35.
Hopefully that should suffice.

Sounds very sensible. Well saved sir.

Something promising is that all NHS Trusts have been asked to provide COVID-19 expenses. So this time that I am doing IT support is being put through via that. This means that when the project does start up...they can keep me on on the original budget for the same length of time.

Sweet

[MonkeysUncle]

So my dilemma

Still waiting on confirmation but if my project does get paused, i have 2 options:

1) Back on the bench
2)They are happy to keep me on helping out on other things (i.e. IT Support) as perm numbers are dwindling

Problem is...Option 2 puts me squarely inside of IR35

What you would guys do?

We dont know how long COVID-19 is going to be around or how long its going to take the UK to get back on its feet. Do I risk going on the bench for an unknown amount of time or do I stay on as a BAU support, inside of IR35 and risk Hector calling?
Do you think, given the current climate they would care/understand?

(For what its worth I am working in the NHS).

So for an update.
Project is officially on pause, all projects are on pause. For all contractors it means if they want to stay on they can but get moved to do other work as the perm numbers are down.

For me it means it means I am going to do 2 days on my current project (winding down, finishing documentation) and 3 days helping out with BAU Support.
I have asked my agency to issue me with a new contract for the 3 days. Completely different role (IT Support Engineer) and to run it inside of IR35.
Hopefully that should suffice.

Something promising is that all NHS Trusts have been asked to provide COVID-19 expenses. So this time that I am doing IT support is being put through via that. This means that when the project does start up...they can keep me on on the original budget for the same length of time.

[MonkeysUncle]

Just had the call I was dreading.

Was due a 6 month extension from April 5. April 5 will now be my last day

Sorry to hear that mate.

[The Janter Effect]

Just had the call I was dreading.

Was due a 6 month extension from April 5. April 5 will now be my last day

[LondonManc]

So my dilemma

Still waiting on confirmation but if my project does get paused, i have 2 options:

1) Back on the bench
2)They are happy to keep me on helping out on other things (i.e. IT Support) as perm numbers are dwindling

Problem is...Option 2 puts me squarely inside of IR35

What you would guys do?

We dont know how long COVID-19 is going to be around or how long its going to take the UK to get back on its feet. Do I risk going on the bench for an unknown amount of time or do I stay on as a BAU support, inside of IR35 and risk Hector calling?
Do you think, given the current climate they would care/understand?

(For what its worth I am working in the NHS).

I'd want option two set up as FTC - 3 months with a month rolling notice on both sides. Means they can treat you like a perm and you can behave like one, especially if everything is worded very differently and there's no CEST tool involved. I'd suggest it's a better option than going on an Inside contract, with HMRC sharpening their sticks ready for next April.

[Paralytic]

So my dilemma

Still waiting on confirmation but if my project does get paused, i have 2 options:

1) Back on the bench
2)They are happy to keep me on helping out on other things (i.e. IT Support) as perm numbers are dwindling

Problem is...Option 2 puts me squarely inside of IR35

What you would guys do?

We dont know how long COVID-19 is going to be around or how long its going to take the UK to get back on its feet. Do I risk going on the bench for an unknown amount of time or do I stay on as a BAU support, inside of IR35 and risk Hector calling?
Do you think, given the current climate they would care/understand?

(For what its worth I am working in the NHS).

Any option of a new contract for the BAU work and accept its inside IR35 for the duration?

Once we get over this mess, HMRC won't care on jot that you had to do this to keep getting paid and will bleed every penny out of you.

[Katalyst]

So my dilemma

Still waiting on confirmation but if my project does get paused, i have 2 options:

1) Back on the bench
2)They are happy to keep me on helping out on other things (i.e. IT Support) as perm numbers are dwindling

Problem is...Option 2 puts me squarely inside of IR35

What you would guys do?

We dont know how long COVID-19 is going to be around or how long its going to take the UK to get back on its feet. Do I risk going on the bench for an unknown amount of time or do I stay on as a BAU support, inside of IR35 and risk Hector calling?
Do you think, given the current climate they would care/understand?

(For what its worth I am working in the NHS).

I would take the BAU job. Jobs are dwindling and this Covid-19 is only getting worse by the day with no end in sight. I'd rather worry about Hector later after I paid my bills and put food on the table than be on the street with no Hector worries. My guess is the tax people are going to have alot more to worry about soon enough to spend any time on trying to squeeze a few pounds out of you.

[hungry_hog]

So my dilemma

Still waiting on confirmation but if my project does get paused, i have 2 options:

1) Back on the bench
2)They are happy to keep me on helping out on other things (i.e. IT Support) as perm numbers are dwindling

Problem is...Option 2 puts me squarely inside of IR35

What you would guys do?

We dont know how long COVID-19 is going to be around or how long its going to take the UK to get back on its feet. Do I risk going on the bench for an unknown amount of time or do I stay on as a BAU support, inside of IR35 and risk Hector calling?
Do you think, given the current climate they would care/understand?

(For what its worth I am working in the NHS).

how many month's war chest have you got?

is there an option to leave and return?

[MonkeysUncle]

So my dilemma

Still waiting on confirmation but if my project does get paused, i have 2 options:

1) Back on the bench
2)They are happy to keep me on helping out on other things (i.e. IT Support) as perm numbers are dwindling

Problem is...Option 2 puts me squarely inside of IR35

What you would guys do?

We dont know how long COVID-19 is going to be around or how long its going to take the UK to get back on its feet. Do I risk going on the bench for an unknown amount of time or do I stay on as a BAU support, inside of IR35 and risk Hector calling?
Do you think, given the current climate they would care/understand?

(For what its worth I am working in the NHS).

[GhostofTarbera]

I may be in the same boat.
Contract has just been extended but been told that if London goes into lockdown then my project is paused and im done.

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[MonkeysUncle]

I may be in the same boat.
Contract has just been extended but been told that if London goes into lockdown then my project is paused and im done.

[pvfcpug]

Yep, just about to be extended, all agreed outside IR35, then bump. All projects ground to a halt and given two weeks notice.

Only to be expected, my only concern is outstanding invoices during this period!