Reply to: TOGAF course provider recommendation

[oilboil]

I did mine with the Knowledge Academy in 2013(!). Was very straightforward. The tutor wasn't fantastic but it was TOGAF early days and no-one had much direct experience back then. Pay attention in the course and you'll pass.

Your definition of early days and mine must differ. TOGAF came out in 1995 and the version you got certified in was published in 2006 so hardly "early days of TOGAF" - just the first you'd heard of it

[cojak]

Now that the situation has changed so drastically since this thread was last discussed in March (I suspect there's been a lot of changes to the training available online since) - anyone got any fresh recommendations?

I'm currently doing a TOGAF course on udemy and while it's cheap, pre-recorded etc, it's not much better than OK - very dry, no real world examples etc. Heavy going. I expect it'll see me through the exams at a pinch but I was wondering if anyone was aware of any new deals?

That's what I did last year. Supplement Udemy with stuff on Youtube, it does help.

[ladymuck]

It seems to have moved to more online classroom delivery so, whilst still dry as you're never going to make TOGAF intersesting, you do get (hopefully) a tutor that's directly engaging with the class rather than just speaking at you.

Not aware of any deals at the moment.

[man]

Now that the situation has changed so drastically since this thread was last discussed in March (I suspect there's been a lot of changes to the training available online since) - anyone got any fresh recommendations?

I'm currently doing a TOGAF course on udemy and while it's cheap, pre-recorded etc, it's not much better than OK - very dry, no real world examples etc. Heavy going. I expect it'll see me through the exams at a pinch but I was wondering if anyone was aware of any new deals?

[ladymuck]

On a completely different point


My company is cancelling all its booked training courses and conventions due to coronavirus[emoji20]

This is going to hit us hard


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The heavy discount available is because of that

[GhostofTarbera]

TOGAF course provider recommendation

On a completely different point


My company is cancelling all its booked training courses and conventions due to coronavirus[emoji20]

This is going to hit us hard


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[ladymuck]

The next residential course in St Neots is 9+13 April, better discount available this time if you PM me for details

[ladymuck]

My partner is delivering a TOGAF 9.2 levels 1 and 2 residential public course in 8-11 March in Wyboston Lakes, St Neots. Exam will be at the end of the course. He gets good reviews for his courses and, if you're really lucky, he'll use the project I'm working on as an example of how not to do EA

It's via Firebrand and is on their website now. PM me if you're interested and want a discount code. I don't have it yet but will have it by Monday/Tuesday. Full price is £3,275 +VAT. Includes accommodation and all meals.

BTW - Firebrand advertise the course as being 9-11 March and don't tell you until you go to book that you have to attend something on the evening of the 8th.

TOGAF 9.2 Training & Certification | 3 Days | Firebrand Training

The discount Firebrand are offering is £175, so the fee is £3,100 +VAT.

If anyone wants to do the above course in March, PM me and I'll send you details of how to get the discount.

[Lockhouse]

I did mine with the Knowledge Academy in 2013(!). Was very straightforward. The tutor wasn't fantastic but it was TOGAF early days and no-one had much direct experience back then. Pay attention in the course and you'll pass.

[Hapax]

Yes, it's just the piece of paper that I'm after. I am aware that the actual TOGAF material is soul-destroying, and I know some TOGAF certified architects that I personally wouldn't trust with a box of Lego, let alone a large IT system.

Fair enough if you need it to nail some role. However you should be aware that the target market is very, very small and badly paid.

If you simply want to burnish your architecture credibility through certification there is no way the that TOGAF could be recommended in 2020.
You would be much better off spending the time and money on AWS certifications. The work is interesting; the demand is high and well paid; they will still be valuable for five years. In other words all the things that TOGAF is not.

[ladymuck]

My partner is delivering a TOGAF 9.2 levels 1 and 2 residential public course in 8-11 March in Wyboston Lakes, St Neots. Exam will be at the end of the course. He gets good reviews for his courses and, if you're really lucky, he'll use the project I'm working on as an example of how not to do EA

It's via Firebrand and is on their website now. PM me if you're interested and want a discount code. I don't have it yet but will have it by Monday/Tuesday. Full price is £3,275 +VAT. Includes accommodation and all meals.

BTW - Firebrand advertise the course as being 9-11 March and don't tell you until you go to book that you have to attend something on the evening of the 8th.

TOGAF 9.2 Training & Certification | 3 Days | Firebrand Training

[hairymouse]

Probably also because they've got to compete with free the online training from Microsoft.
Azure fundamentals learning path - Learn | Microsoft Docs

And also the £20 course on Udemy.

[OneManBand]

There's no need for a course provider.

I bought a couple of books, studied them and arranged the exams independently and successfully.

I assume the this is some exercise in box-ticking credentialism. If you're an an experienced professional you won't learn much and in addition it's mind numbingly boring.

Yes, it's just the piece of paper that I'm after. I am aware that the actual TOGAF material is soul-destroying, and I know some TOGAF certified architects that I personally wouldn't trust with a box of Lego, let alone a large IT system.

[CheeseSlice]

There's no need for a course provider.

I bought a couple of books, studied them and arranged the exams independently and successfully.

I assume the this is some exercise in box-ticking credentialism. If you're an an experienced professional you won't learn much and in addition it's mind numbingly boring.

Have to disagree with you there. For me this is one certification where I felt the classroom training was essential. Perhaps there is a good book out there, but I'm glad I took the course with a good trainer.
The topics are not exactly what you 'learn on the job'. Even if you think you're a good architect, if you don't come from an EA background and are looking to move into this area you should learning a formal methodology. In practice you take what you need from TOGAF for the situation. I use what I've learned all of the time and its served my architecture career well.

[CheeseSlice]

I noticed that the Microsoft Azure Fundamentals course is £1795 at knowledge academy. I've seen it much cheaper elsewhere, usually around £500 - £700. One place, Worldwide IT Training was even offering it for £99. I called and asked why it was so cheap and they told me it was in an auditorium with 60 people.

Probably also because they've got to compete with free the online training from Microsoft.
Azure fundamentals learning path - Learn | Microsoft Docs