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I was once finished on a Friday with no notice by client (but there was 4 week notice in the contract). The client agreed to pay me 3 weeks for the notice period and I started a new gig on the Monday. Boom.....3 weeks of double invoicing ...back of the net!
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My previous contract and my current one overlapped for 2 weeks. It was the tail end of the project with little more than a couple of hand over meetings/calls left to do. Hardly any need to be onsite, even then both were in Canary wharf.
Had a chat with the hiring managers in both ClientCos and they were both fine to run them in parallel as long as I can keep up with all the work.
Pulled some 10-12h work days, some hopping between the 2 offices, but ultimately both ClientCos were happy and I got to invoice double.
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Originally posted by BritishLad88 View PostIndeed I could, especially for outside IR35 contracts. But as you may or may not know, not a lot of clients (in particular big investment banks, corporate enterprises etc...) allow subs due to the fact each contractor needs to be heaviliy vetted prior on taking the role (for security, compliance reasons). And those vetting takes a long time! Plus the client's system probably have tailored setup for that contractor to work...
So it's not as easy as just sending your mate to replace you for a day or two.
.. Even though my contract with the agency says I could!
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Originally posted by BritishLad88 View PostIndeed I could, especially for outside IR35 contracts. But as you may or may not know, not a lot of clients (in particular big investment banks, corporate enterprises etc...) allow subs due to the fact each contractor needs to be heaviliy vetted prior on taking the role (for security, compliance reasons). And those vetting takes a long time! Plus the client's system probably have tailored setup for that contractor to work...
So it's not as easy as just sending your mate to replace you for a day or two.
.. Even though my contract with the agency says I could!
This is assuming that (a) you have a fairly unfettered right of substitution in your contract and (b) they don't call your bluff and ask you to send the sub
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostThe OP could also insist on their right to send a sub, and then negotiate to a position where the notice period is not worked.
So it's not as easy as just sending your mate to replace you for a day or two.
.. Even though my contract with the agency says I could!
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The OP could also insist on their right to send a sub, and then negotiate to a position where the notice period is not worked.
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Originally posted by billybiro View PostProbably because clients can invoke that same "notice period" and not have you work it?
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What does the contract say about availability for delivering services (holidays etc.)?
You could advise the agency you won't be available to deliver services for the next four weeks and then give notice to terminate the contract. Not a great way to make friends but sometimes needs must.
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Just work two contracts at the same time. As long as you don't have to be on site 5 days per week it's perfectly doable
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Originally posted by BritishLad88 View PostReally? How?
Originally posted by BritishLad88 View PostYeah that's what I'm exploring at, seeing possible to start new one now and offer a managed handover if required. But work dictates I need to be in client's premise to do the work/access the work related stuff. If only I can be in 2 places at same time.
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Originally posted by Lance View PostYou're thinking like permie not like a business
Originally posted by Lance View PostStart the new one now, but fitting it in around current commitments.
Hand notice in on current, and offer a managed handover alongside other commitments.
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Originally posted by darsa View PostLegal? No.
People do it anyhow and I haven't heard of anyone getting sued for going MIA on their contract (I doubt it's worth their time and money). Though you'd definitely burn bridges and get a bad reputation.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostWhy would you think its legal to have a notice period in which you serve and then don't work
Originally posted by northernladuk View PostWhat's better about the new gig that you are giving notice to your old one. Why did you not make them aware you had a notice period in your old gig?
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Just because they're demanding you start immediately doesn't mean it's a deal breaker. I would think it would be unlikely there will be an alternative contractor who will be immediately available. Most contractors will have to work their notice periods. I suspect also they'll be recruiting more than one developer, and they're simply trying to get recruits to come on board earlier.
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