Reply to: Outside ir35

[cojak]

You guys are very rude and this is not the first time I see it happening in this forum. How do you expect people to ask questions and get benefit from this website if you carry on humiliating people for honest questions like this?

I have warned people and they are now following my instructions.

This is the last of this type of thread and so I will close it to ensure that people do not think that this still happens .

[TwoWolves]

Whatever happens, I hope clients aren’t relying on agent advice

Unfortunately, I'm afraid that seems to be the case in most cases I've been hearing about.

[kembljoe]

Not at the level you are asking. They elements have been documented for over 10 years and tested in court a number of times since.

If you don't know after 4 years then you are inside.

You guys are very rude and this is not the first time I see it happening in this forum. How do you expect people to ask questions and get benefit from this website if you carry on humiliating people for honest questions like this?

[BR14]

Right.

Listen very carefully, I will say this only once.


I hope I have made myself clear.

eh? - what???

[northernladuk]

One should not discount the possibility that others might be quicker than you.

Alright alright smarty pants. I'm trying.. And I don't just mean Cojaks patience.

[WordIsBond]

It's taken me 10 years and I'm still unclear on some areas.

One should not discount the possibility that others might be quicker than you.

[PerfectStorm]

Outside ir35

Whatever happens, I hope clients aren’t relying on agent advice

[northernladuk]

I found this article better than the one mentioned on page 1 here

What is IR35? | IT Contractors | Inside or outside IR35?

The link wasn't to an article. It was to a resource area with over 80 links relating to all aspects of IR35. If you scroll down a bit you will find an article purely on using your own kit and another one about attendance on site and much much more.

Ir35 is about much more that one page descriptions.

[CompoundOverload]

Start your own thread instead of hijacking another one?

But first look at this sticky:

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ould-i-go.html

Sorry, didn't realise I would be high jacking the thread as it's based on the same subject....but take your point and will create yet another IR35 thread.

[BlueSharp]

Whilst we are on this subject....

I have FINALLY received an email from the agency on behalf of my client (who ultimately make the IR35 decisions)....

Our review of the legislation and initial findings indicate that a significant proportion of roles will be ‘In Scope’ of the regulations, meaning that X could become liable for any unpaid tax and NI in relation to those roles. However at this stage I cannot confirm the scope determination or impact for individual roles or contractors. I appreciate your eagerness to understand the impact of X determination for you personally, and ask for your patience whilst we complete our assessment.

They have indicated a timeline of one months time for the review to be done and communicated to each of the contractors. This isn't ideal for me personally, as ultimately i wanted the decision to be made in the new year (when I would have already left the client). Now I am thinking that I should probably hand my notice in very soon (one month notice) before any decision has been communicated to me. Currently, my role is outside. QDOS reviewed contract (and passed) and I have IR35 TLC insurance.

However, based on the wording "a significant proportion of roles will be ‘In Scope’ of the regulations" makes me extremely nervous, as whilst I believe my role is currently outside (and should also be post April), the client could be nervous and react the way the banks have done.

Any advice any of you have would be most appreciated....

Start your own thread instead of hijacking another one?

But first look at this sticky:

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ould-i-go.html

[CompoundOverload]

Whilst we are on this subject....

I have FINALLY received an email from the agency on behalf of my client (who ultimately make the IR35 decisions)....

Our review of the legislation and initial findings indicate that a significant proportion of roles will be ‘In Scope’ of the regulations, meaning that X could become liable for any unpaid tax and NI in relation to those roles. However at this stage I cannot confirm the scope determination or impact for individual roles or contractors. I appreciate your eagerness to understand the impact of X determination for you personally, and ask for your patience whilst we complete our assessment.

They have indicated a timeline of one months time for the review to be done and communicated to each of the contractors. This isn't ideal for me personally, as ultimately i wanted the decision to be made in the new year (when I would have already left the client). Now I am thinking that I should probably hand my notice in very soon (one month notice) before any decision has been communicated to me. Currently, my role is outside. QDOS reviewed contract (and passed) and I have IR35 TLC insurance.

However, based on the wording "a significant proportion of roles will be ‘In Scope’ of the regulations" makes me extremely nervous, as whilst I believe my role is currently outside (and should also be post April), the client could be nervous and react the way the banks have done.

Any advice any of you have would be most appreciated....

[BlueSharp]

I found this article better than the one mentioned on page 1 here

What is IR35? | IT Contractors | Inside or outside IR35?

Nice find. As you can see there is no check list, just certain principles we have to adhere to operate as outside ir35.

[jonneymendoza]

I found this article better than the one mentioned on page 1 here

What is IR35? | IT Contractors | Inside or outside IR35?

[northernladuk]

Quick to read? Yes it doesn't take long to read the link you provided.

You mean the link that BlueTeachersPetCrawlyBumLickSharp posted?

There is a ton of other highly focused links to read in there as well don't forget.

[jonneymendoza]

That was quick. It's taken me 10 years and I'm still unclear on some areas.

The fact you are still hanging on to your points would indicate to me you've not read enough or understood it. Look out for something discussing three pillars. Should be mentioned in every IR35 article.

Quick to read? Yes it doesn't take long to read the link you provided.