Reply to: Single Parent Not Compatible To Business Needs

[ladymuck]

Will that change what the OP wrote in their first message?

Like the majority of threads here, the opening post doesn't give the full picture. We probably still don't have it but everyone is entitled to a private life.

Yes there's some odd use of terminology; remember there are sectors who have moved into contract work/self employment who haven't lived the IR35 dream for the past 20-ish years. People who just want to work and pay their bills, not realising that companies placing or hiring them are not going to tell them anything useful. We all had to learn, so will they.

[billybiro]

Read the f***ing thread.

Will that change what the OP wrote in their first message?

[SueEllen]

Does not compute.

Read the f***ing thread.

[billybiro]

I run a ltd company and yesterday my contract got terminated for my personal reasons. Not by myself I hasten to add. Following an exemplorary one to one just days before, my supervisor felt that my newly acquired status as a single mum would not be compatible to the job role. Is this even legal?

Does not compute.

[rogerfederer]

OP, you sound like a good person with your heart in the right place.

Your managerial report sounds as if they are nepotistic and best avoided. The wording of a conversation regarding flexible hours needs to be carefully conducted. It sounds like no matter how tentatively you worded this to this manager they would have found a reason to get rid of you.

You are too good for that business and better off elsewhere. I would echo others that it is outrageous that companies are outsourcing such jobs just to reduce liability. This should be closed down soon, as it is destroying many jobs at the bottom (not yours), such as easy plumbing jobs that are 80% of the daily plumber fixes, delivery companies, you name it.

Good luck.

[GreenMirror]

I was put in post in post to support some staff in a young male suicide I used all my emotional and physical reserves to support these young colleagues. I have not made a fortune from contracting. Far from it. The hassles and dismay that have derived from it are far from fortuitous. I was used as a contractor to passify the needs of employer.

Sadly alot of companies are outsourcing workers. Contracting or the gig economy(pimlico plumbers, uber, etcetc.).

HMRC will soon close down the contractor "loophole" and I expect the gig economy will be done at the same time.

[Lanny]

What a dick-head comment. I might get banned but that's being a total dick-head.

I was put in post in post to support some staff in a young male suicide I used all my emotional and physical reserves to support these young colleagues. I have not made a fortune from contracting. Far from it. The hassles and dismay that have derived from it are far from fortuitous. I was used as a contractor to passify the needs of employer.

[Lanny]

Newly separated in quite difficult circumstances. I have worked full time since qualifying as a nurse 20 years ago. I asked my supervisor if on one day of the week I could start at 9.30 alongside my peers as opposed to my usual 7am start. Not an awful lot to ask.

[Old Greg]

Totally not your business to be asking that. Everyone has different circumstance.

I read it that the op was newly separated or widowed.

[Lance]

Anyway - should you really be working with a new born baby?

What a dick-head comment. I might get banned but that's being a total dick-head.

[Lance]

This does not sound to me like standard contracting. More like a company that provides resources to clients, treats those resources like employees in every way except actually employing them.

One approach might be to start legal action on the grounds that you are actually their employee. Of course it all depends on the actual details of how it's set up.

THIS ^^^^^^^

Almost all companies are sh*t scared of getting this sort of thing wrong. Even if they're allowed to because you're a contractor (or are you really??? Uber?? Pimlico Plumbers?? etc.), the negative press would be really bad for them.

It is also illegal to discriminate in circumstances other than employment. Think about gayness all over cakes in Northern Ireland (that didn't end well for the cake shop).

I'd be inclined in your position to seek professional legal advice, and if that proves fruitless I'd be seeking journalistic help.

No matter whether they can or not it's so very, very wrong and they need/deserve a right good shafting for it.

[Old Greg]

This is a major global automotive company. Predominantly male staff. I feel I have been used as an employee and disposed of as a contractor. I guess I should put this down to naivety and move on.

Are you inside or outside IR35?

[WordIsBond]

Everyone has different circumstance.

True. But that's not a reason to say the question shouldn't be asked. It's a reason to say he's not the person to answer that question, which is a very different matter.

It's totally legit to challenge people as to whether or not they are acting out of habit / default or whether they've actually thought through the decision. There are people who should work with a newborn and people who shouldn't, and it's a good question to ask.

[BR14]

I’ve worked with several cry-babies.
I suspect some new-born babies would have a better concept of reality than 99% of the PM’s I’ve had the pleasure of dealing with.

FTFM

[WTFH]

Totally not your business to be asking that. Everyone has different circumstance.

I’ve worked with several cry-babies.
I suspect some new-born babies would have a better concept of reality than some of the PM’s I’ve had the pleasure of dealing with.