Reply to: is this breach of contract

[NotAllThere]

Who knows? I guess that very important piece of information will come to light somewhere later on down the thread as usual.

Well, he's not been back here so far, so probably we'll never know.

PCs rules for xmas night out with the permies

1. Don't get so pissed like this idiot that you can't make it in to the office next morning.
2. Buy the permies a beer and be nice.
3. Don't act like a complete dick
4. Don't act like bertie big bollox contractor either. (Got to be careful with 2. Don't go nuts buying vintage champagne you'll just look like a bell end. Pint of Guiness will make average permie well happy).

1.Oops
2. Always do that
3. Ah....
4. Er.... I've always found they appreciate the Dom Perignon.

Anyway, thread locked as I think the OP isn't coming back. Probably still hasn't recovered from his hangover.

[fatboyslim]

hi, long time lurker first time poster. i have been contracting at a large bank for 5 months

last night it was the christmas night out. i was not able to make it in this morning. i was already pretty drunk by the time my manager left about 10pm and said there wasn,t much chance of me getting in today. he just laughed so i assumed it would be okay.

anyway next thing i am getting a call from HR

they are saying that i will not be getting paid for today and want a meeting on monday 9am to 'discuss the situation'

it is a 12 month contract so if they try to terminate can i say this is breach of contract?

also can they say they won't pay me for today? as far as i am concerned this was agreed in advance with my line manager?

hope its all good.
you cant be paid for the day you did not work, and the manager should not report you to HR for not coming next day, because you informed him already.
Dont think its a big deal, I usually just call them same day in the morning to inform them that am not coming, never been an issue.
If you are working for some 3rd party staffing agency who want to control you, its another issue.

[northernladyuk]

I usually tulip myself with excitement knowing he’s coming so need to clean..

I think the old man played second policewoman in that movie.

[BR14]

When the client co sets up a party on a Thursday night, its precisely to judge who gets pissed on free booze. I deliberately lay off the booze and head home just after dinner so I can be in the office before anyone else.

OP's name sounds Indian, so I am guessing not really a seasoned contractor, just someone who grabbed an opportunity without actually reading through the contract. Sigh....I am guessing we will have a new thread about sacked without a notice period.

yeh, bless his wee cotton socks

[fullyautomatix]

When the client co sets up a party on a Thursday night, its precisely to judge who gets pissed on free booze. I deliberately lay off the booze and head home just after dinner so I can be in the office before anyone else.

OP's name sounds Indian, so I am guessing not really a seasoned contractor, just someone who grabbed an opportunity without actually reading through the contract. Sigh....I am guessing we will have a new thread about sacked without a notice period.

[Lance]

He was wondering why you're always in the shower when he turns up.

I usually tulip myself with excitement knowing he’s coming so need to clean..

[MrButton]

Maybe he means he worked from home - a laugh from your manager isn’t any kind of understanding or agreement.

Or maybe he’s trollin.

[TheFaQQer]

Who knows? I guess that very important piece of information will come to light somewhere later on down the thread as usual.

Only if the master decides to keep this one going beyond one post.

[MrMarkyMark]

Many companies look down on employees who don't turn up the day after a company celebration which involves alcohol particularly if they are American.

Now for a contractor not to turn up and be openly very p*ssed the night before is really not a good idea.

If you are going to get p*ssed on a school night then do it out of view of your client and make your illness look real.

Back in my day, you pulled yourself out of the hedge you slept in, rolled in and billed for the day

[Pondlife]

FFS again.

Clearly someone has opened the socks their mum got them as a stocking filler a tad early and has glued some googly eyes on one of them.


Can we have a sockpuppet or fishing rod smilie for Christmas please admin?

[SueEllen]

Hi OP, you can charge the client only for the days you turn up. If you can't turn up for work, don't put it on your time sheet and don't invoice the client for that day. It doesn't matter what the cause is - sickness, hangover, snow, whatever. In fact, to say on a time sheet you were there on Thursday when in fact you weren't might even be a teensy-weensy bit fraudulent. Don't do it.

It seems odd that the HR police would strike so quickly, simply in response to a 1 day absence. Is there something you haven't told us? I would apologize the the manager for not being there (and don't mention "drink" in the apology, just say you were unwell). If you are otherwise okay they should forgive you.

Many companies look down on employees who don't turn up the day after a company celebration which involves alcohol particularly if they are American.

Now for a contractor not to turn up and be openly very p*ssed the night before is really not a good idea.

If you are going to get p*ssed on a school night then do it out of view of your client and make your illness look real.

[unixman]

Hi OP, you can charge the client only for the days you turn up. If you can't turn up for work, don't put it on your time sheet and don't invoice the client for that day. It doesn't matter what the cause is - sickness, hangover, snow, whatever. In fact, to say on a time sheet you were there on Thursday when in fact you weren't might even be a teensy-weensy bit fraudulent. Don't do it.

It seems odd that the HR police would strike so quickly, simply in response to a 1 day absence. Is there something you haven't told us? I would apologize the the manager for not being there (and don't mention "drink" in the apology, just say you were unwell). If you are otherwise okay they should forgive you.

[washed up contractor]

hi, long time lurker first time poster. i have been contracting at a large bank for 5 months

last night it was the christmas night out. i was not able to make it in this morning. i was already pretty drunk by the time my manager left about 10pm and said there wasn,t much chance of me getting in today. he just laughed so i assumed it would be okay.

anyway next thing i am getting a call from HR

they are saying that i will not be getting paid for today and want a meeting on monday 9am to 'discuss the situation'

it is a 12 month contract so if they try to terminate can i say this is breach of contract?

also can they say they won't pay me for today? as far as i am concerned this was agreed in advance with my line manager?

Oh for crying out loud, do even permies expect to get paid if they get smashed then dont turn in for work the next day? Self inflicted?

Sounds to me there's more to this, either someone told their 'manager' a few things to 'put them right' or there are other work related issues.

In short, no, you've no claim for breach.

If you must go to the works chrissie do (some places actually frown on contractors who dont go), dont get pissed, dont go making an exhibition of yourself trying to get your tongue down the throat of that colleague you fancy or trying to get your hand in your manager's wife's knickers.

[northernladyuk]

you've met my plumber

He was wondering why you're always in the shower when he turns up.

[Lance]

you hire a plumber to fix your toilet. You see him in the pub getting hammered, they come over to you drunk and say they won't be turning up to fix your toilet tomorrow. I'm sure you'd not be happy.

you've met my plumber