Reply to: State of the Market

[SussexSeagull]

Tracking down recruiters can work but more just hide unless they absolutely have to.

[willendure]

When you spot a gig you like the look of, what do you do? Just fire off your CV and hope they call back? If that's all you're doing then consider being more pushy. Hunt down the agency, phone them up, ask to talk to the recruiter. Find them on LinkedIn and connect with them. Make sure they know who you are.

Even if you don't get the gig, use it as an opportunity to talk to agents and network with them. Offer to meet for a coffee, etc.

Great advice really.

I always try and hunt them down and get them on the phone. Frustratingly, more and more recruiters are hiding from phone calls nowadays. Or you call their work number but they are working from home and no call forwarding set up, and so on.

[willendure]

We are in the midst of a hiring recession, especially in the UK: ManpowerGroup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu6uYxkhz7E

[quackhandle]

When you spot a gig you like the look of, what do you do? Just fire off your CV and hope they call back? If that's all you're doing then consider being more pushy. Hunt down the agency, phone them up, ask to talk to the recruiter. Find them on LinkedIn and connect with them. Make sure they know who you are.

Even if you don't get the gig, use it as an opportunity to talk to agents and network with them. Offer to meet for a coffee, etc.

I'm rubbish at doing this, and is something I'm going to work on, but a friend of mine has been solidly doing this for the past few months and is getting more direct calls to check their interest in things coming up, which is still subject to client sign off but shows they are a step ahead of the competition when the role does materialise.

I've always done this even before LinkedIn was a thing, as CVs tend to go missing, I've never signed my CV up to any job boards as I like to know who it goes to.

Even with LI I never like to apply directly for a role, always get the pimp's email and send it that way.

qh

[agentzero]

The US is a country built on immigration so its hardly a change in how they do things. If anything the anti-immigration attitude is the thing that is new there. Perhaps the Magas are just toning the racist vote winning anti-immigration message down as they get back the realities of running the place. They don't need to cast Mexicans as rapists now they need them to be working shifts.

A significant difference between Europe and the US, is that every generation in Europe has been smaller than the baby boomers. In the states, the boomers is a big generation, but their millenial generation is actualy just slightly larger. Declining productivity is not going to be a problem they face over the next few decades, in the same way that it will be one that we face.

The UK seems to have chosen immigration as a solution to staving off a shrinking workforce and maintaining productivty, without ever making the policy explicit, and at the same time as running anti-immigration propaganda around the (comparably irrelevant) small boats issue. The usual double speak. Labour say they will drastically cut legal immigration and I certainly support that.
The only wake up call Musk needs is a long look in the mirror

Upton Sinclair - The Jungle
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41681.The_Jungle

[SussexSeagull]

Think I should take bets on how far into 2025 before I find a new contract. Got a feeling, it won't be soon!

As ever with these things, you can be unsuccessful a hundred times but you only need to get it right once.

[oliverson]

Absolutely no signs of any recovery. Sorry to start the year off like this but looks like it maybe another 12mths without a contract.

What am I doing wrong!

Perhaps it's your skillset?

What do you do and what skills do you have?

[SussexSeagull]

Absolutely no signs of any recovery. Sorry to start the year off like this but looks like it maybe another 12mths without a contract.

What am I doing wrong!

Bit early to jump to any conclusions, considering most offices aren't properly back until Monday.

[avonleigh]

Absolutely no signs of any recovery. Sorry to start the year off like this but looks like it maybe another 12mths without a contract.

What am I doing wrong!

It's only first day back after the holidays. Not much is going to be happening until next week at the earliest. Not saying there is going to be a recovery but need to give it time.

[ladymuck]

Absolutely no signs of any recovery. Sorry to start the year off like this but looks like it maybe another 12mths without a contract.

What am I doing wrong!

When you spot a gig you like the look of, what do you do? Just fire off your CV and hope they call back? If that's all you're doing then consider being more pushy. Hunt down the agency, phone them up, ask to talk to the recruiter. Find them on LinkedIn and connect with them. Make sure they know who you are.

Even if you don't get the gig, use it as an opportunity to talk to agents and network with them. Offer to meet for a coffee, etc.

I'm rubbish at doing this, and is something I'm going to work on, but a friend of mine has been solidly doing this for the past few months and is getting more direct calls to check their interest in things coming up, which is still subject to client sign off but shows they are a step ahead of the competition when the role does materialise.

[SchumiStars]

Absolutely no signs of any recovery. Sorry to start the year off like this but looks like it maybe another 12mths without a contract.

What am I doing wrong!

[willendure]

Think I should take bets on how far into 2025 before I find a new contract. Got a feeling, it won't be soon!

[willendure]

Perhaps, the US are also encouraging immigration, seems to be a big money earner for the UK, so would expect the same in the US.

The US is a country built on immigration so its hardly a change in how they do things. If anything the anti-immigration attitude is the thing that is new there. Perhaps the Magas are just toning the racist vote winning anti-immigration message down as they get back the realities of running the place. They don't need to cast Mexicans as rapists now they need them to be working shifts.

A significant difference between Europe and the US, is that every generation in Europe has been smaller than the baby boomers. In the states, the boomers is a big generation, but their millenial generation is actualy just slightly larger. Declining productivity is not going to be a problem they face over the next few decades, in the same way that it will be one that we face.

The UK seems to have chosen immigration as a solution to staving off a shrinking workforce and maintaining productivty, without ever making the policy explicit, and at the same time as running anti-immigration propaganda around the (comparably irrelevant) small boats issue. The usual double speak. Labour say they will drastically cut legal immigration and I certainly support that.
The only wake up call Musk needs is a long look in the mirror

[SussexSeagull]

Similar seems to be happening in the TV industry, A boom post Covid following a lack of opportunities rings true.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crl3077699jo

[edison]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyv7gxp02yo

Seems quite a similar situation over here. Except $200k seems a bit better than the crap we get over here.

Saw a thread on Linkedin yesterday where someone posted screenshots from a site similar to Glassdoor where H1B visa holders can anonymously post their salaries and who they work for. Some large famous companies on there with plenty of salaries way below $200k, some under $100k.