Reply to: What does this feedback mean?

[lukemg]

Right, do not ever spend any time thinking about feedback, it will almost certainly be platitudes or BS.
Another chap who worked there before got it.
Job has been pulled/changed spec/will be based in botswana etc bla bla
You got it - they like you and think you can do the job.
You didn't get it - one or both of the above is false.
Don't underestimate fitting in, they have to/the team have to work with you, people hire people like themselves, they cant help it.
At this point it's a sales job, not IT, think first date, be yourself but only the best bits....

[LondonManc]

Sounds like you're a technical BA and they want a business BA. Best fit they've got so far perhaps but not what they need and unfortunately sounds like they don't want you for this role.

[northernladuk]

Also not all people might be available at the time of the interview. They want to ensure that you are a good fit, its not just the skills.

Indeed. I'm not sure it's the case for all types of contracting roles but more often than not I've been interviewed by the business and then invited in to speak to their customer, be it an internal customer or the end client of the business if it's a consultancy. Maybe this isn't required for some more techie roles. In some cases the customer is actually paying for my time and not the business unit I'll be working with so not unreasonable for them to have a hand in the interview as well.

I do think blanket dismissal of second interviews is a bit of a poor approach. Clients run their business differently so the interview processes are going to be different so I'd be taking it on a case by case basis.

[Montyuk]

What a load of rubbish. If you're out of contract why would you not go to a second interview. Ridiculous.

Also not all people might be available at the time of the interview. They want to ensure that you are a good fit, its not just the skills.

[VillageContractor]

Does anyone actually do this?
I always refuse 2nd interviews as the criteria for contractors should only be :

1: Can they do the job
2: Will they fit into the team

If whoever is interviewing cannot establish those and make a decision during the course of the interview then pretty sure its all been a waste of time

What a load of rubbish. If you're out of contract why would you not go to a second interview. Ridiculous.

[psychocandy]

Does anyone actually do this?
I always refuse 2nd interviews as the criteria for contractors should only be :

1: Can they do the job
2: Will they fit into the team

If whoever is interviewing cannot establish those and make a decision during the course of the interview then pretty sure its all been a waste of time

Yep 2nd interviews usually mean waste of time. I've had a few where they then decide to can the role. Thanks.

If I'm on the bench then fair enough I've got time but not if I'm still in gig.

To be honest, my best gigs have been ones where the interview has been informal or quick. General chat/getting to know type. When you get an interview with 50 crappy tech questions you just know its not going to fly.

[SussexSeagull]

I don't know you from Adam but it sounds like you didn't connect on a personal level. It happens, especially when the person interviewing has their permanent employee hat on.

Move on but if you keep being told this you might want to evolve your interview technique.

Must confess I am not a fan of anything more than telephone screen followed by interview but needs must at times, I suppose.

[Boney M]

Why did you call up again when he said he won have spoke to his boss until Monday?

As other said you are to technical for the role, he doesnt want you in for 4 weeks and then piss off to another role that is more technically suited and he has to start looking again, we are mercenaries after all in their eyes.

Finally the pimp is going to keep readvertising, I have been interviewed for roles and seen it readvertised and still get the role

[WordIsBond]

If I were out of contract I'd go to 5 interviews if they wanted and it wasn't costing me anything more than time. Especially if the second interview is with a decision maker rather than an HR bod.

It would be different if they want you to travel 200 miles for the interview and aren't at least paying the expenses. But if the cost is just time, it's better than sitting around reading old threads on CUK.

[kaiser78]

Does anyone actually do this?
I always refuse 2nd interviews as the criteria for contractors should only be :

1: Can they do the job
2: Will they fit into the team

If whoever is interviewing cannot establish those and make a decision during the course of the interview then pretty sure its all been a waste of time

I do. This could cause you to burn bridges especially if a juicy role and you refuse a 2nd interview, no ? I am always happy to have a 2nd if it is a role I want and enables me to secure it.

[Troll]

He will come back on Monday after he has discussed with his boss with possibility of 2nd round of interview with his boss".

Does anyone actually do this?
I always refuse 2nd interviews as the criteria for contractors should only be :

1: Can they do the job
2: Will they fit into the team

If whoever is interviewing cannot establish those and make a decision during the course of the interview then pretty sure its all been a waste of time

[NickFitz]

However I called agent yesterday to find out if there is any further update and he said I ll have to wait till Monday.But I see the role has been readvertised again on Friday evening by the same agent.

Am I still running or should I move on?

I've just been having dealings with an agent who, twenty minutes after saying on the phone that he'd put me forward for a gig, sent a faux-personalised email out to his list, including me, advertising the same gig (for which only one person is required). He did the same thing a couple of days later, after he'd confirmed that I had an interview. And between those, he re-posted the gig on JobServe

I start on Monday. So I wouldn't read too much into the re-advertising; he's just keeping his options open or, possibly, incompetent at managing a mailing list

[Kprad35]

Yeah, I was just responding to the "should I move on", to which the answer is "always."

So, I'll try to read between the lines, since that's what you want. You're "a bit intense." Work on being more like-able, easy-going. Maybe you were nervous, and it came out as "intensity"? I'd bet you weren't thinking about the interviewer, what would make him more at ease, what would make the interview more pleasant/enjoyable for him, what would help him.

He thought you'd be bored in the role, so he was going to see if maybe there is a different role for someone with your skills. So you gave the impression of someone who is very intense and technical, and won't be interested in a role that isn't like that. Is that you, or not? Was he right? If not, then you may have lost this contract simply on personality (or apparent personality) issues, because he thought you were too intense to take on a role that isn't perfectly suited to you.

Totally speculating, of course. I don't know you, the interviewer, etc. But I suppose it wouldn't hurt to work on smiling more, seeing the interviewer as a person doing a tough job (how are THEY supposed to figure out whether you will be a good fit based on this one meeting?), learn to engage them in easy/relaxed conversation, learn how to present yourself as competent but also friendly. Be ready to spend a minute or two (but probably not more) on chit chat about Leicester football or the weather or the upcoming Olympics or whatever that will let them know you are human, but to quickly transition to work so they know you are professional. That sends the message that you are good, but also that you'll fit in and that you aren't completely a nerd who only cares about being technical.

Have you been through any seminars on being interviewed?

Thanks for taking time in analysing the situation and making it clear.
Although I did have some informal chi-chat when he said he has worked in the company where I am working now.So I just asked his opinion about current company and the company where we both worked.He then said about some advantages such as cheap gym.He did reject 2 previous candaidates saying their knowledge is superficial so I prepared quite well and answered all his questions.but looks like something didnt work.

[BrilloPad]

You are too technical for the role.

I once had a technical test. I got 70% which was right in their target range. 60-80%.

They do like you - but the role is not quite right.

Keep looking.....

[WordIsBond]

Yeah, I was just responding to the "should I move on", to which the answer is "always."

So, I'll try to read between the lines, since that's what you want. You're "a bit intense." Work on being more like-able, easy-going. Maybe you were nervous, and it came out as "intensity"? I'd bet you weren't thinking about the interviewer, what would make him more at ease, what would make the interview more pleasant/enjoyable for him, what would help him.

He thought you'd be bored in the role, so he was going to see if maybe there is a different role for someone with your skills. So you gave the impression of someone who is very intense and technical, and won't be interested in a role that isn't like that. Is that you, or not? Was he right? If not, then you may have lost this contract simply on personality (or apparent personality) issues, because he thought you were too intense to take on a role that isn't perfectly suited to you.

Totally speculating, of course. I don't know you, the interviewer, etc. But I suppose it wouldn't hurt to work on smiling more, seeing the interviewer as a person doing a tough job (how are THEY supposed to figure out whether you will be a good fit based on this one meeting?), learn to engage them in easy/relaxed conversation, learn how to present yourself as competent but also friendly. Be ready to spend a minute or two (but probably not more) on chit chat about Leicester football or the weather or the upcoming Olympics or whatever that will let them know you are human, but to quickly transition to work so they know you are professional. That sends the message that you are good, but also that you'll fit in and that you aren't completely a nerd who only cares about being technical.

Have you been through any seminars on being interviewed?