Reply to: What is "departmental/company records check"??

[TheFaQQer]

Hi Nice But Dim,
Which application form you mean? The Job-Application form or SC clearance application form?

Both.

Lying on the SC form is going to get caught, and you'll not get the job. The SC check may flag up discrepancies from your application form (really, who uses a job application form as a contractor?) and you'll not get the job.

If you need SC, then they are checking that you are trustworthy. If you've lied to get the job, you probably aren't.

[SueEllen]

I did not understand what you meant. Could you please tell me a bit more that what you mean.

An SC check involves credit referencing you, checking if you have a criminal record, looking at previous work references and anything else the vetting officer feels they need to look at for that particular role.

This last bit means no one except that particular vetting officer can say what parts of your background they need to look at specifically.

Asking loads of questions on a forum is not going give you any more information.

So keep asking stupid questions and expect this thread to be locked.

[lalu]

I did not understand what you meant. Could you please tell me a bit more that what you mean.

[SueEllen]

I see , it means it is hard to get the 100% information about SC clearance employment verification process in any way .

Yes.

They just background check you so if you have dodgy finances then be very afraid....

[lalu]

Hi Nice But Dim,
Which application form you mean? The Job-Application form or SC clearance application form?

[DaveB]

I see , it means it is hard to get the 100% information about SC clearance employment verification process in any way .

You don't need to know what the process is. You supply the information asked for and then they check it out. If they decide you can be trusted and you meet the criteria then you get your clearance. If you don't, you don't. Simple as that. There are no grounds for appeal and you will not be told the reasons for any rejection.

The single most likely reason for failing to be granted clearance is that you lied on the application forms.

[northernladuk]

I see , it means it is hard to get the 100% information about SC clearance employment verification process in any way .

And to be fair even if it was, what difference does it make? If you need it you have to apply and supply everything required, it's out of your hands. I can only think anyone that needs to worry about the details of the process has something to hide. We get lots of questions about whether people will pass or not but this is the first long thread I can remember where we have had to try to unpick the process which does make you wonder.

[lalu]

I see , it means it is hard to get the 100% information about SC clearance employment verification process in any way .

[NickNick]

dear members, thanks for your replies.

Mr. NickNick, if they have sent the reference query to you, as you were the director of your own company. Is it might possible they have sent query to HMRC as well to check that were you paying the tax or not , or how much you were earning as an employee ?

I severely doubt that. SC isn't about paying tax as far as I know.

[lalu]

dear members, thanks for your replies.

Mr. NickNick, if they have sent the reference query to you, as you were the director of your own company. Is it might possible they have sent query to HMRC as well to check that were you paying the tax or not , or how much you were earning as an employee ?

[NickNick]

Obviously things may have moved on in the last couple of years, but when I got SC I was asked about employment history. I replied that I'd been working for the same company for years and years (my ltd) and gave them the details, but politely pointed out that I thought they were asking the wrong question.

They sent me (as director of the LTD) a letter asking about me (as an employee). Again I replied, pointing out that we were both the same person, but yes I had known me for more than x years and I'd been employed by my ltd for all that time.

Got the SC.

[cojak]

But my friend said that SC clearance people don't ask to your previous employer but to HMRC only, because SC clearance people work for Govt and they contact only to HMRC.

But you said that they will contact to my previous employer.
Will they contact both of them?
or only to HMRC?
or only to previous employer?

Oh Dear, how very ignorant of your friend!

Security Clearance doesn't mean that HMRC think that you pay your taxes.

It means that you are what you say you are (from an employment pov, anyway), and are reasonably* trustworthy. Lying about previous employers isn't very trustworthy, is it?

(* I think that DV goes beyond reasonable to pretty certain AFAIK.)

[northernladuk]

But my friend said that SC clearance people don't ask to your previous employer but to HMRC only, because SC clearance people work for Govt and they contact only to HMRC.

But you said that they will contact to my previous employer.
Will they contact both of them?
or only to HMRC?
or only to previous employer?

Get some new friends? You can find a ton of information on it at the link below a d you can contact them and ask but bearing in mind this is a check to make sure you are suitable to view sensitive information. I hardly think they will divulge all their processes to you.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/security...-and-clearance

[lalu]

But my friend said that SC clearance people don't ask to your previous employer but to HMRC only, because SC clearance people work for Govt and they contact only to HMRC.

But you said that they will contact to my previous employer.
Will they contact both of them?
or only to HMRC?
or only to previous employer?

[DaveB]

You a bit nervous or something?

You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment