Reply to: Dillemma whether to go Permy or take 6 Month contract

[silentsteel]

Not with Wipro it isn't. They will simply rape him for knowledge then unceremoniously dump him when they have what they need. Why else are they offering £85k?

Hi,

Someone I know is in a similar position. Contractor being chased by Wipro for a position though not in the area you are mentioning. Here are a few points to consider:

1. Monday - Friday travel.
2. Work life balance will be very difficult.
3. They are big however the hotel and expense policy is different. An allownace is given for the expense and hotels and flights are booked by a 24x7 department operating out of India. The person I spoke to mentioned that there could be challanges with regards to quantity of expenses.
4. Look on Glassdoor.com for reviews of ex-exployees of Wipro. Even senior management is not happy unless you are in India- Wipro where there is a good tech presence however not very good in HR and employee satisfaction.
5. Yes there is a satisfaction of the permanent opportunity and some decent salary coming in however be very very careful, personal happiness working with people who might be technically good but not so in the other areas might be a challange. A culture shock.
6. Holiday allowance only 20 days and next to nothing sick pay. - As a contractor you take that as a granted however these are considered benefits of a permanent employment in lieu for a lower salary when compared to a contractor wages.

Whatever you decide - good luck.

SS

[Stan.goodvibes]

I would say take the permie role and leave after 6 - 9 months or so for 2 reasons
1. you have your new skill
2. you have the big consultancy on your CV (personally however working for one is the last thing I ever would want to do)
On your CV it will look like another contract and now you can start making money using your new skill

I see what you did there. Nice.

[Crossroads]

Ref expenses... because if the contract at 500/day doesn't include them and they are non trivial then it is part of the comparison... although with WiPro I'm sure sharing a triple room in a 1* guest house is the norm, so won't exactly make a lot of difference!!!

[Taita]

500 per day vs. 85K + expenses

Offer in writing yet? If expenses are calculated as expenses then they are not in any way material to your salary...... why don't people understand this?

[sal]

Not with Wipro it isn't. They will simply rape him for knowledge then unceremoniously dump him when they have what they need. Why else are they offering £85k?

I guess you didn't get the irony in wantacontract's post...

[ChimpMaster]

go permie!!

definitely the right thing to do.

Not with Wipro it isn't. They will simply rape him for knowledge then unceremoniously dump him when they have what they need. Why else are they offering £85k?

[wantacontract]

go permie!!

definitely the right thing to do.

[northernladuk]

Thanks I have decided to go with 6month contract.
a) my take home is more than permanent. - No tulip sherlock
b) its closer to home and less travel - For 6 months
c) I can learn the skill in the evening and weekends- but you can't demonstrate it on your CV when you are up against people that have 6 months plus using this tech on a clients project.

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[DiscoStu]

its wipro

Run away even faster.

[MB1983]

I recently took a 12 month fixed term contract of employment and after 2 months I feel that it was a big mistake… partly because they misrepresented the job and partly because I don't have the patience/inclination to put up with the nonsense that comes with being an employee. I'm currently hatching plans to get out before moving on to a 3 month notice period!

Think carefully before taking a permanent job if you are someone who prefers working as a contractor.

[NiceGuy]

Oops I now saw it's an Indian consultancy (tech Mahindra possibly??)
RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!

its wipro

[NiceGuy]

I would say take the permie role and leave after 6 - 9 months or so for 2 reasons
1. you have your new skill
2. you have the big consultancy on your CV (personally however working for one is the last thing I ever would want to do)
On your CV it will look like another contract and now you can start making money using your new skill

Thanks I have decided to go with 6month contract.
a) my take home is more than permanent.
b) its closer to home and less travel
c) I can learn the skill in the evening and weekends

[Sausage Surprise]

its a big Indian IT consultancy.

Oh dear...

[Eirikur]

Oops I now saw it's an Indian consultancy (tech Mahindra possibly??)
RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!

[Eirikur]

I would say take the permie role and leave after 6 - 9 months or so for 2 reasons
1. you have your new skill
2. you have the big consultancy on your CV (personally however working for one is the last thing I ever would want to do)
On your CV it will look like another contract and now you can start making money using your new skill