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Previously on "Honda pauses production after UK port woes"

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    The UK congestion is a tiny fraction of the global situation.
    But we're the UK, we rule the waves, we are not a tiny fraction, we are the most important, the rest of the world crumbles because we are the global key!

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
    Again, naive or stupid?

    The congestion at UK ports is causing congestion of freight vessels all over the globe. For e.g. freight co's are not planning any further ships to leave China to the UK for some weeks as they are running out of empty containers as they are building up at UK ports. It is very much caused by Brexit ... the world just loves us and the 52% that voted out
    I don't think you're stupid. The empty containers are building up at ports all over the world. The UK congestion is a tiny fraction of the global situation.

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  • AtW
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    “ Tim Stacey, chief executive of DFS, the sofa retailer which has used Felixstowe for three decades, said there was a “genuine problem” at the port which was getting worse. “As a result, our Chinese suppliers aren’t even going to Felixstowe anymore,” he said. “They are dropping deliveries at Zeebrugge, Rotterdam, Dunkirk and we are then having to use hauliers and extra lorries to get across. So there’s extra cost and it’s bad for consumers because there’s delays in deliveries.”

    Virus and Brexit leave ports gasping for air | Business | The Times

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    I'm not paying to read that, but I did see in the first paragraph that the fruit is destined for Asia. The headline references 'global shipping chaos'. Brexit didn't do any of that. Not even almost...
    Again, naive or stupid?

    The congestion at UK ports is causing congestion of freight vessels all over the globe. For e.g. freight co's are not planning any further ships to leave China to the UK for some weeks as they are running out of empty containers as they are building up at UK ports. It is very much caused by Brexit ... the world just loves us and the 52% that voted out

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    A genius idea, probably from a management consultant, who didn't anticipate delays due to problems with the weather, strikes in France, or a Global Pandemic. Honda have had nine months to adjust their logistics chain, and couldn't be bothered because they're closing the factory soon anyway.
    Naive or stupid comment ... I'll let others decide

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  • courtg9000
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    The problem is only in part these 11,000 containers.
    The real problem is the port management. Felixstowe is owned by Hutchison. I rest my case.

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  • darmstadt
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    What's the 'equivalent of 11,000 containers of masks, gloves and aprons'. Is it 11,000 containers of potatoes or car parts or tat from China? It's either 11,000 containers of PPE or not...

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  • _V_
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    Port of Felixstowe: Government called on to ease congestion | Ipswich Star

    The port has been experiencing congestion problems for weeks, with shipping movement disruption caused by the pandemic affecting ports nationwide.

    Traders at the east Suffolk port also faced delays recently due to a huge backlog of personal protective equipment (PPE) stored there, with the equivalent of 11,000 containers of masks, gloves and aprons taking up significant proportions of available space.

    UK Major Ports Group chief executive Tim Morris said: "The Covid-19 pandemic has caused unprecedented volatility in global supply chains. The impact is being felt across the world, including here in the UK.

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Well it isn't Brexit, if that's what you're thinking. Tariffs haven't kicked in yet. It's a worldwide issue as companies and ports adapt to an increase in shipping movements. There's a shortage of containers at some Asian ports, for example, and any delays there are magnified when they reach the UK.
    Most of the delays are in the UK ports itself, nothing to so with delays in reaching the UK.

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  • clearedforlanding
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Well it isn't Brexit, if that's what you're thinking. Tariffs haven't kicked in yet. It's a worldwide issue as companies and ports adapt to an increase in shipping movements. There's a shortage of containers at some Asian ports, for example, and any delays there are magnified when they reach the UK.
    It can be a global problem with hotspots caused by regional events; Brexit for example.

    The root cause is not a question of increased shipping movements, it is a question of processes, procedures and systems not being ready in time at the landing port in the UK.

    I doubt the lack of containers in Guangzhou or Ningbo-Zhoushan are will contribute to the queues in Calais.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    What other things are causing the problems? (since you've got your finger on the pulse of UK logistics)
    Well it isn't Brexit, if that's what you're thinking. Tariffs haven't kicked in yet. It's a worldwide issue as companies and ports adapt to an increase in shipping movements. There's a shortage of containers at some Asian ports, for example, and any delays there are magnified when they reach the UK.

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  • AtW
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    Time to make a killing from RAF C-130J Hercules

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  • clearedforlanding
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Air freight is down beacuse passenger planes not flying - they'd normally take some of freight, where as number of dedicated freight only airplanes is limited and they are all fooking busy.
    Should be an upturn as Honda have decided to use it.


    Honda turns to airfreight as UK box ports face gridlock

    https://www.aircargonews.net/sectors...face-gridlock/

    Belly capacity is growing & freight airplanes are up YoY 12%, Express is up YoY 20%

    https://www.aircargonews.net/busines...apacity-grows/
    Last edited by clearedforlanding; 9 December 2020, 16:06.

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  • AtW
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    Air freight is down beacuse passenger planes not flying - they'd normally take some of freight, where as number of dedicated freight only airplanes is limited and they are all fooking busy.

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  • clearedforlanding
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    According to Mordac, air freight is down 90% (due to Covid), and this massive drop has resulted in air freight now going by sea, which is why all the UK sea ports are full of containers. The fact that 90% of UK air freight is less than 5% of the UK sea freight is lost n his massive logistical mind.
    Oh dear. It's probably lost on him that many PX airplanes are being converted to freight as it is the only aviation sector apart from General Aviation that is seeing an uptick.

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