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Previously on "6,000 jobs at risk at Cafe Rouge and Bella Italia owner"

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  • Platypus
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    That's the spirit. I hope the new soup kitchen is more to your taste.
    I was hoping for Jam and Scones

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Platypus View Post
    Tosh. I've been to a Bella Italia a couple of times, it was ok, but not so good that I've been back in the last 3 odd years.

    As for Cafe Rouge, the only people who go are tourists or people looking for a quick pre-theatre meal. I've worn both hats, been twice, utter crap both times (once in London, once in Stratford).

    Brexit and now Corona are very convenient excuses for badly managed businesses providing poor service who go out of business.

    Good riddance to both. Make way for some local eateries to take up the slack.
    That's the spirit. I hope the new soup kitchen is more to your taste.

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  • Platypus
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    Tosh. I've been to a Bella Italia a couple of times, it was ok, but not so good that I've been back in the last 3 odd years.

    As for Cafe Rouge, the only people who go are tourists or people looking for a quick pre-theatre meal. I've worn both hats, been twice, utter crap both times (once in London, once in Stratford).

    Brexit and now Corona are very convenient excuses for badly managed businesses providing poor service who go out of business.

    Good riddance to both. Make way for some local eateries to take up the slack.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    So it's something to do with the economic shock and something to do with the vulnerability?
    The shock will only kill you if you have the vulnerability.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    If they are in the same sector, and subject to the same 'shocks', those which go under must have 'underlying health conditions'.
    So it's something to do with the economic shock and something to do with the vulnerability?

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    If they are in the same sector, and subject to the same 'shocks', those which go under must have 'underlying health conditions'.
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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Classic Brexiteer 'logic'.

    If there is a recession and 100,000 businesses go under that otherwise wouldn't, is it nothing to do with the recession because not every business goes under.

    Some businesses are more vulnerable to economic shocks, but that doesn't mean that the economic shocks have no effect just because some businesses survive them.
    If they are in the same sector, and subject to the same 'shocks', those which go under must have 'underlying health conditions'.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    They often make great cocktail bars or restaurants though!
    Unfortunately the local council don't agree. New restaurants are effectively banned (I'm not making this up) because they won't allow any change of use. All we'd get would be the big chains though, because the rents are prohibitive.

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  • elsergiovolador
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Banks? They are closing faster than pubs. I'm 10 mins walk away from 4 empty banks, and they will remain empty probably forever, because they were built as banks, and won't work as shops.
    They will turn them into cash collection points for cartels.

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  • PCTNN
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    They often make great cocktail bars or restaurants though!
    Also porn movie sets. Like, a man that goes to the bank to make a deposit. Or a woman that wants to speak to the manager because her loan application was denied....

    Porn should be just as important as fruit picking in the uk2.0 economy.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Thought you were banned for 7 days?
    I typically get early release for nobbing Admin's mum.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Classic Brexiteer 'logic'.

    If there is a recession and 100,000 businesses go under that otherwise wouldn't, is it nothing to do with the recession because not every business goes under.

    Some businesses are more vulnerable to economic shocks, but that doesn't mean that the economic shocks have no effect just because some businesses survive them.
    Thought you were banned for 7 days?

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Yes, it did, but that would apply to every food importer. So why are some coping better than others? As we have discussed widely, badly run companies are quick to blame Brexit, because it deflects quite nicely away from the real reasons.
    Quite apart from the fact that their brand name sounds like an Italian drag act, their food offering wasn't very good, and the service was awful. No organisation is going to survive that in the long term, with or without Brexit.

    Classic Brexiteer 'logic'.

    If there is a recession and 100,000 businesses go under that otherwise wouldn't, is it nothing to do with the recession because not every business goes under.

    Some businesses are more vulnerable to economic shocks, but that doesn't mean that the economic shocks have no effect just because some businesses survive them.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Banks? They are closing faster than pubs. I'm 10 mins walk away from 4 empty banks, and they will remain empty probably forever, because they were built as banks, and won't work as shops.
    They often make great cocktail bars or restaurants though!

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
    Their locations will be taken over by betting shops, banks or loan sharks.
    Banks? They are closing faster than pubs. I'm 10 mins walk away from 4 empty banks, and they will remain empty probably forever, because they were built as banks, and won't work as shops.

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