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[darmstadt]

Well we haven't left the EU properly yet. We're still paying for their hospitals.

The EU has hospitals? Where?

[WTFH]

Other EU nations are only able to take control of their borders by invoking emergency powers and so on, which is rather different. And even then they have not been able to curtail movement within the Schengen zone fully.

"curtail"... "fully"

but they are certainly curtailing, if not fully.
If every road had a border checkpoint on it, the complaint would be "but people could still walk in over fields"

Something is better than nothing.

And having control of your borders is having control of your borders. There was nothing to take back.

[d000hg]

Is £350million a week extra for the NHS and 40 new hospitals.
But no one ever put that in their manifestos etc, so it won’t be happening.

Nice to see that countries in the EU didn’t need to take back control of their borders, cause they always had control.

Well we haven't left the EU properly yet. We're still paying for their hospitals.

Other EU nations are only able to take control of their borders by invoking emergency powers and so on, which is rather different. And even then they have not been able to curtail movement within the Schengen zone fully.

[NotAllThere]

Even for a Remainer, that's moronic. You think that in "normal times" the UK could just spontaneously have said "borders shut, no bloody foreigners allowed in" and the EU would have just nodded and said, "well, that's fine, because you already have full control" ?

Pathetic.

Even for a Brexiter, that's moronic. You think that in "normal times" the UK would ever just spontaneously have said "borders shut, no bloody foreigners allowed in"?

Pathetic.

[Platypus]

Nice to see that countries in the EU didn’t need to take back control of their borders, cause they always had control.

Even for a Remainer, that's moronic. You think that in "normal times" the UK could just spontaneously have said "borders shut, no bloody foreigners allowed in" and the EU would have just nodded and said, "well, that's fine, because you already have full control" ?

Pathetic.

[NotAllThere]

Yes but what about the toblerones?

Toblerone production continues unabated. Funnily enough in the Swiss government's advice on what to stock, chocolate is on the list.

[Bean]

They didn’t have to go to Brussels and have votes from other countries. They were able to unilaterally make decisions.

Unlike here, where the government refuses to make decisions, but should no longer be blaming the EU for the government’s failures and lies.
40 hospitals? Unlikely.
£350million a week? Claim that was never said.
Recruit 50,000 nurses? Nope.

Thought the EU didn't like countries making unilateral decisions?, even in the case of Coranavirus...
Brussels fury after Donald Trump's 'unilateral' US-Europe travel ban

Also, thought we were 'still in' the EU (rule takers) until the end of the transition, or is that not you understanding?

[original PM]

Yes but what about the toblerones?

[BrilloPad]

... is some good advice.

And Madonna should know.

[WTFH]

Didn't they need to declare a state of national emergency to do this?

They didn’t have to go to Brussels and have votes from other countries. They were able to unilaterally make decisions.

Unlike here, where the government refuses to make decisions, but should no longer be blaming the EU for the government’s failures and lies.
40 hospitals? Unlikely.
£350million a week? Claim that was never said.
Recruit 50,000 nurses? Nope.

[CheeseSlice]

Nice to see that countries in the EU didn’t need to take back control of their borders, cause they always had control.

Didn't they need to declare a state of national emergency to do this?

[darmstadt]

:sigh:

We have been here before - the reason the EU allows free movement is because they cannot stop it - there is simply to much mileage of land borders between EU countries to effectively allow 100% border control.


But anyway lets get back to Toblerone production - has it been affected?

What about before Schengen?

[NotAllThere]

Not drunk, not ill, not hungover. Just egregiously ignorant. So much wrong with what you said, that there's only one rational response:

the reason the EU allows free movement is because they cannot stop it - there is simply to much mileage of land borders between EU countries to effectively allow 100% border control.

But, mirth aside, you are now maintaining that Britain has control over its borders due to being surrounded by sea*, and so confirming that the "take back control of our borders" rallying cry was so much horse-feathers. Actually, that's cause for another

Please, keep 'em coming. In these days we need all the laughs we can get.


* Which was the case before Brexit. Or didn't you notice.

[original PM]

At least you accept that it was another Brexit lie you fell for about us taking back control of our borders. We always had control.

Can you twist and deflect any further?

:sigh:

We have been here before - the reason the EU allows free movement is because they cannot stop it - there is simply to much mileage of land borders between EU countries to effectively allow 100% border control.


But anyway lets get back to Toblerone production - has it been affected?

[WTFH]

Do you think they have got all 623 kilometres covered?

France–Spain border - Wikipedia

As I am neither hungover or drunk I must therefore be ill in the absence of any more choices.

Specious argument - definition of specious argument by The Free Dictionary

Has it impacted Toblerone production yet?

At least you accept that it was another Brexit lie you fell for about us taking back control of our borders. We always had control.

Can you twist and deflect any further?