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Originally posted by d000hg View PostOther EU nations are only able to take control of their borders by invoking emergency powers and so on, which is rather different. And even then they have not been able to curtail movement within the Schengen zone fully.
but they are certainly curtailing, if not fully.
If every road had a border checkpoint on it, the complaint would be "but people could still walk in over fields"
Something is better than nothing.
And having control of your borders is having control of your borders. There was nothing to take back.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostIs £350million a week extra for the NHS and 40 new hospitals.
But no one ever put that in their manifestos etc, so it won’t be happening.
Nice to see that countries in the EU didn’t need to take back control of their borders, cause they always had control.
Other EU nations are only able to take control of their borders by invoking emergency powers and so on, which is rather different. And even then they have not been able to curtail movement within the Schengen zone fully.
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Originally posted by Platypus View PostEven for a Remainer, that's moronic. You think that in "normal times" the UK could just spontaneously have said "borders shut, no bloody foreigners allowed in" and the EU would have just nodded and said, "well, that's fine, because you already have full control" ?
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostNice to see that countries in the EU didn’t need to take back control of their borders, cause they always had control.
Pathetic.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostYes but what about the toblerones?
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostThey didn’t have to go to Brussels and have votes from other countries. They were able to unilaterally make decisions.
Unlike here, where the government refuses to make decisions, but should no longer be blaming the EU for the government’s failures and lies.
40 hospitals? Unlikely.
£350million a week? Claim that was never said.
Recruit 50,000 nurses? Nope.
Brussels fury after Donald Trump's 'unilateral' US-Europe travel ban
Also, thought we were 'still in' the EU (rule takers) until the end of the transition, or is that not you understanding?
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Originally posted by CheeseSlice View PostDidn't they need to declare a state of national emergency to do this?
Unlike here, where the government refuses to make decisions, but should no longer be blaming the EU for the government’s failures and lies.
40 hospitals? Unlikely.
£350million a week? Claim that was never said.
Recruit 50,000 nurses? Nope.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostNice to see that countries in the EU didn’t need to take back control of their borders, cause they always had control.
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Originally posted by original PM View Post:sigh:
We have been here before - the reason the EU allows free movement is because they cannot stop it - there is simply to much mileage of land borders between EU countries to effectively allow 100% border control.
But anyway lets get back to Toblerone production - has it been affected?
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Not drunk, not ill, not hungover. Just egregiously ignorant. So much wrong with what you said, that there's only one rational response:
Originally posted by original PM View Postthe reason the EU allows free movement is because they cannot stop it - there is simply to much mileage of land borders between EU countries to effectively allow 100% border control.
But, mirth aside, you are now maintaining that Britain has control over its borders due to being surrounded by sea*, and so confirming that the "take back control of our borders" rallying cry was so much horse-feathers. Actually, that's cause for another
Please, keep 'em coming. In these days we need all the laughs we can get.
* Which was the case before Brexit. Or didn't you notice.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostAt least you accept that it was another Brexit lie you fell for about us taking back control of our borders. We always had control.
Can you twist and deflect any further?
We have been here before - the reason the EU allows free movement is because they cannot stop it - there is simply to much mileage of land borders between EU countries to effectively allow 100% border control.
But anyway lets get back to Toblerone production - has it been affected?
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Originally posted by original PM View PostDo you think they have got all 623 kilometres covered?
France–Spain border - Wikipedia
As I am neither hungover or drunk I must therefore be ill in the absence of any more choices.
Specious argument - definition of specious argument by The Free Dictionary
Has it impacted Toblerone production yet?
At least you accept that it was another Brexit lie you fell for about us taking back control of our borders. We always had control.
Can you twist and deflect any further?
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