Reply to: Freedom of movement 'will end' says the government

[NotAllThere]

I think what you will find, and has already been mooted by his inner cabal, is that Johnson wants Ireland to leave the EU for a period of time and be under UK law regarding all this free trade and movement

Best way to make that happen is for him to do a Putin.

[Zigenare]

Irish don't have to collaborate with Germans, just follow the rules of free movement, that will still stand after UK leaves! I know it's hard for some to understand, but the world doesn't orbit around the UK, not even the EU...

[CryingSheep]

The Irish collaborating with the Germans? Heaven forfend!

Irish don't have to collaborate with Germans, just follow the rules of free movement, that will still stand after UK leaves! I know it's hard for some to understand, but the world doesn't orbit around the UK, not even the EU...

[CryingSheep]

I think what you will find, and has already been mooted by his inner cabal, is that Johnson wants Ireland to leave the EU for a period of time and be under UK law regarding all this free trade and movement

Whatever... both will derive from the same! UK getting preferential treatment from EU and doing whatever it wants. Somehow British politicians believe this will keep going even after leaving EU

More, they will get offended and blame EU if it doesn't...

[darmstadt]

Ireland is not part of Schengen zone so a border between Germany and Ireland will still be in place after Brexit.

Obviously this won't solve the problem of a German travel to Ireland and then enter in the UK, since a German will still have free movement between Ireland and Germany. I think that British politicians believe that they can impose limitations between Ireland and the rest of Europe, since they are used to get preferential treatment from EU and do whatever they want!

I honestly believe that the main reason that Ireland stayed out of schengen area was to easy the movement between Ireland and UK, so I believe it's probably a matter of time for Ireland to join the Schengen after Brexit.

I think what you will find, and has already been mooted by his inner cabal, is that Johnson wants Ireland to leave the EU for a period of time and be under UK law regarding all this free trade and movement

[meridian]

Could a Leaver please explain this:

I’m not a Leaver (obvs) but movement of people over any border is a red herring.

The U.K. has minimal border force for immigration checks at point of entry. The vast majority of immigration checks for purposes of work/employment/residency is performed by the private sector, by companies and landlords checking eligibility.

(Almost) anyone from (almost) any country can currently apply for a holiday visa, enter the country, and then simply not go home - the U.K. doesn’t stamp anyone leaving so have no idea how many illegals are here at any one time. Nothing much will change at the border for now, the checks will still be done by the private sector.

[Zigenare]

Ireland is not part of Schengen zone so a border between Germany and Ireland will still be in place after Brexit.

Obviously this won't solve the problem of a German travel to Ireland and then enter in the UK, since a German will still have free movement between Ireland and Germany. I think that British politicians believe that they can impose limitations between Ireland and the rest of Europe, since they are used to get preferential treatment from EU and do whatever they want!

I honestly believe that the main reason that Ireland stayed out of schengen area was to easy the movement between Ireland and UK, so I believe it's probably a matter of time for Ireland to join the Schengen after Brexit.

The Irish collaborating with the Germans? Heaven forfend!

[CryingSheep]

Could a Leaver please explain this:

Ireland is not part of Schengen zone so a border between Germany and Ireland will still be in place after Brexit.

Obviously this won't solve the problem of a German travel to Ireland and then enter in the UK, since a German will still have free movement between Ireland and Germany. I think that British politicians believe that they can impose limitations between Ireland and the rest of Europe, since they are used to get preferential treatment from EU and do whatever they want!

I honestly believe that the main reason that Ireland stayed out of schengen area was to easy the movement between Ireland and UK, so I believe it's probably a matter of time for Ireland to join the Schengen after Brexit.

[darmstadt]

Could a Leaver please explain this:

[original PM]

I think he means 'bought' as in, staying in the EU will make us better off, and leaving will make us worse off. So yes, if me wanting to stay in the EU because it makes my country better off means I'm being 'bought', I'll hold my hand up. It beats the idiots who want to leave to be worse off

And once you have been bought you have kind of lost your negotiating position?

[BrilloPad]

can't argue with you there, but per population, the EU parliament is significantly smaller than Westminster ... so let's stop being hypocritical and let's reduce the number of MPs in Westminster first Oh, and sack all the Westminster unelected advisers our MPs like to surround themselves with.

Surely we can keep the bouncer from Europe's worst nightclub?

[CryingSheep]

I think he means 'bought' as in, staying in the EU will make us better off, and leaving will make us worse off. So yes, if me wanting to stay in the EU because it makes my country better off means I'm being 'bought', I'll hold my hand up. It beats the idiots who want to leave to be worse off

Makes sense...

[Whorty]

When you say "you", do you mean like the DUP, or do you mean bought like those who believed £350million a week to the NHS, 70million Turks, easiest trade deal ever, etc.

I think he means 'bought' as in, staying in the EU will make us better off, and leaving will make us worse off. So yes, if me wanting to stay in the EU because it makes my country better off means I'm being 'bought', I'll hold my hand up. It beats the idiots who want to leave to be worse off

[WTFH]

Also it is interesting how many of you can be bought.

When you say "you", do you mean like the DUP, or do you mean bought like those who believed £350million a week to the NHS, 70million Turks, easiest trade deal ever, etc.

[Whorty]

I do not think the EU is that 'undemocratic' but I do think less politicians telling us what to do instead of more is a good thing.

Also it is interesting how many of you can be bought.

can't argue with you there, but per population, the EU parliament is significantly smaller than Westminster ... so let's stop being hypocritical and let's reduce the number of MPs in Westminster first Oh, and sack all the Westminster unelected advisers our MPs like to surround themselves with.