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  • Hobosapien
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    Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
    Yes she could, if she brought more of Inaction Man's party across to her side. Not exactly inconceivable.
    Yup. Marginalise the rebels in her own party and fill the gap with rebels in the Labour party.

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  • TestMangler
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    Originally posted by stonehenge View Post
    She can't get it through without the DUP, and they'll never vote for it.
    Yes she could, if she brought more of Inaction Man's party across to her side. Not exactly inconceivable.

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    I shall start to learn German

    Hopefully I will be good enough to pass as a native to avoid the attentions of the fourth Reich.
    You do that son. You might want to learn a bit of French too, just in case

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    If we are going to stay in the EU for the long term they we need to stop thinking like an individual nation and simply become European.

    We should adopt the euro and simply get rid of the UK parliament given they have shown they actually are unfit to run a country.

    It is purely a matter of economics and there is no point in playing at being in Europe we either are or we are not.

    We voted not to be but I think we have been shown the true power of democracy in this country.
    How is the self pity today?

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  • Yorkie62
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    If we are going to stay in the EU for the long term they we need to stop thinking like an individual nation and simply become European.

    We should adopt the euro and simply get rid of the UK parliament given they have shown they actually are unfit to run a country.

    It is purely a matter of economics and there is no point in playing at being in Europe we either are or we are not.

    We voted not to be but I think we have been shown the true power of democracy in this country.
    This.

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  • stonehenge
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    Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
    May considering a 4th attempt to get her deal passed.

    She literally has no other idea or plan, just her deal.

    Then again her relentless persistence with it is slowly wearing down the opposition. She's still playing them off against each other, one minute promoting her deal or it's no deal, then next it's her deal or no brexit.
    She can't get it through without the DUP, and they'll never vote for it.

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    That’s a weird defeatist attitude to take. It tells people that you don’t think much of the U.K. as a nation, that you think the U.K. is weak and that Germany is better in every way, and therefore in your head Germany is going to take over.

    Have some optimism about the U.K., that we’re good enough that we can work in partnership with people and countries for win/win situations instead of always looking for winners and losers.
    If we are going to stay in the EU for the long term they we need to stop thinking like an individual nation and simply become European.

    We should adopt the euro and simply get rid of the UK parliament given they have shown they actually are unfit to run a country.

    It is purely a matter of economics and there is no point in playing at being in Europe we either are or we are not.

    We voted not to be but I think we have been shown the true power of democracy in this country.

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  • Hobosapien
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    May considering a 4th attempt to get her deal passed.

    She literally has no other idea or plan, just her deal.

    Then again her relentless persistence with it is slowly wearing down the opposition. She's still playing them off against each other, one minute promoting her deal or it's no deal, then next it's her deal or no brexit.

    Boris and the other privileged s showing their true colours. One minute saying May's deal is the worst possible outcome as it will make the UK a vassal state of the EU, the next voting for her deal as soon as she said she'd stand down if they did so.

    Boris just wants to be PM at any cost (to paraphrase Game of Thrones, "he'd see the world burn if he could rule the ashes"). The others running scared of no brexit as it would mean they can't continue their plans to enforce their own elitist agenda.

    Both parties need a leadership change if they are to have a clear chance of winning the next GE. They'd do better to have another referendum where the outcome is more predictable, likely a swing to 'remain', so then it goes to best of three.

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    I shall start to learn German

    Hopefully I will be good enough to pass as a native to avoid the attentions of the fourth Reich.
    That’s a weird defeatist attitude to take. It tells people that you don’t think much of the U.K. as a nation, that you think the U.K. is weak and that Germany is better in every way, and therefore in your head Germany is going to take over.

    Have some optimism about the U.K., that we’re good enough that we can work in partnership with people and countries for win/win situations instead of always looking for winners and losers.

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  • original PM
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    I shall start to learn German

    Hopefully I will be good enough to pass as a native to avoid the attentions of the fourth Reich.

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  • stonehenge
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    The DUP have come clean this evening, with a statement that the Union is more important than Brexit.

    Basically they've realised Brexit won't work for them. The only alternative they could support would have to include a Customs Union, to ensure they don't end up under a bus at the end of Brexit.

    Looks like "Extenshun".

    Sounds like they are signaling that they might support the Customs Union in the indicative votes on Monday.

    May must rue the day she ever called that general election.

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  • zerosum
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    The DUP have come clean this evening, with a statement that the Union is more important than Brexit.

    Basically they've realised Brexit won't work for them. The only alternative they could support would have to include a Customs Union, to ensure they don't end up under a bus at the end of Brexit.

    Looks like "Extenshun".

    Wonder why it took them three years to work this one out.

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  • BlasterBates
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  • BlasterBates
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    The DUP have come clean this evening, with a statement that the Union is more important than Brexit.

    Basically they've realised Brexit won't work for them. The only alternative they could support would have to include a Customs Union, to ensure they don't end up under a bus at the end of Brexit.

    Looks like "Extenshun".

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