Bercow blocks the Government

[meridian]

Don't get me wrong, if she was somehow to get her deal approved next week then I find it hard to believe the EU wouldn't approve a further extension to 22 May, but my point was it wouldn't be automatic. We would have to request it, they would have to accept it and I believe due to the way yesterday's SI was worded, we'd need to pass another SI to change domestic legislation again.

Ah, okay - yes, agreed.

Depending on the time required it may be a “special” sort of extension, one where we technically leave by 22 May but with a special status for a fixed period so that the EU avoids any complications with EP elections. Who knows though. Popcorn!

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

Any legislation also has to pass through the other house! More popcorn anyone?

True, although the passing of the SI to change "exit day" in UK legislation does not affect if and when we leave the EU as that is governed by EU and international law. Which is why the 100 or so MPs who voted against the SI (including my own) are idiots - all they would have achieved is to create a legal mess. The SI will undoubtedly fly through the Lords.

[Yorkie62]

Don't get me wrong, if she was somehow to get her deal approved next week then I find it hard to believe the EU wouldn't approve a further extension to 22 May, but my point was it wouldn't be automatic. We would have to request it, they would have to accept it and I believe due to the way yesterday's SI was worded, we'd need to pass another SI to change domestic legislation again.

Any legislation also has to pass through the other house! More popcorn anyone?

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

If the “indication of a way forward” by April 12 is the approval of the WA somewhere between Mar 29 and Apr 12, this may be sufficient for the EU to approve a separate extension to cover the period required for the supporting U.K. legislation to be put into place.

Don't get me wrong, if she was somehow to get her deal approved next week then I find it hard to believe the EU wouldn't approve a further extension to 22 May, but my point was it wouldn't be automatic. We would have to request it, they would have to accept it and I believe due to the way yesterday's SI was worded, we'd need to pass another SI to change domestic legislation again.

[meridian]

Only problem with that is it will require going back to the EU and asking for an extension beyond April 12 and changing the date in UK law again.

Her deal needs to be passed this week for the May extension date to take effect immediately.

It does, but it’s sort of ambiguous on the reason for any extension past April 12:

The European Council agrees to an extension until 22 May 2019, provided the Withdrawal Agreement is approved by the House of Commons next week. If the Withdrawal Agreement is not approved by the House of Commons next week, the European Council agrees to an extension until 12 April 2019 and expects the United Kingdom to indicate a way forward before this date for consideration by the European Council.

If the “indication of a way forward” by April 12 is the approval of the WA somewhere between Mar 29 and Apr 12, this may be sufficient for the EU to approve a separate extension to cover the period required for the supporting U.K. legislation to be put into place.

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

I reckon he'll allow the deal to be voted on after the second lot of votes on Monday, as this will enable amendments to be put down.

Only problem with that is it will require going back to the EU and asking for an extension beyond April 12 and changing the date in UK law again.

Her deal needs to be passed this week for the May extension date to take effect immediately.

[scooterscot]

Remainers: Can we have another referendum?
Brexidiots NO that's betrayal of the people who have clearly voted to leave and we will hit you with our Zimmerframes if you are going to allow it

May: Can I have a second vote on my withdrawal agreement despite it was defeated with the highest vote against a sitting government ever
Everybody: OK
May can I have a 3d vote despite being defeated twice
Bercow: No effing way unless you change it
May: can I have a 3d vote despite you said no and despite it was shot down twice
Bercow: WTF did I tell you? no
Tories :

Totally. Their mantra was 'take back control' & 'We want democracy' and then they sheit all over it. They should be thrown in jail.

The dirtiest of swamps are cleaner than this lot.

[Yorkie62]

I reckon he'll allow the deal to be voted on as he just wants to keep his job as speaker.

FTFY

[BlasterBates]

I reckon he'll allow the deal to be voted on after the second lot of votes on Monday, as this will enable amendments to be put down.

[NotAllThere]

I look forward to seeing Bercrow forcibly and publically dragged from his chair and replaced by one of his deputies. Long live democracy.

Oh, the ironing.

[Yorkie62]

I look forward to seeing Bercrow forcibly and publically dragged from his chair and replaced by one of his deputies. Long live democracy.

[Eirikur]

Remainers: Can we have another referendum?
Brexidiots NO that's betrayal of the people who have clearly voted to leave and we will hit you with our Zimmerframes if you are going to allow it

May: Can I have a second vote on my withdrawal agreement despite it was defeated with the highest vote against a sitting government ever
Everybody: OK
May can I have a 3d vote despite being defeated twice
Bercow: No effing way unless you change it
May: can I have a 3d vote despite you said no and despite it was shot down twice
Bercow: WTF did I tell you? no
Tories :

[stonehenge]

He says he won't allow a MV3 unless the deal is substantially changed.

He also said he won't allow a motion enabling a MV3.

And he would block any attempts to circumvent him.

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