Reply to: Could the ERG collapse the Government to force no deal Brexit

[meridian]

Could the ERG collapse the Government to force no deal Brexit

Bad news guys, the UK's best selling popcorn is owned by a German company.

My pack of Butterkist says that the address is Ashley-de-la-Zouch*

Sounds suspiciously French, even if it is in Leicestershire.

Interestingly, the two founders of KP Snacks started out as jam manufacturers....


*Yes, am aware that the owner is Intersnack

[Yorkie62]

Bad news guys, the UK's best selling popcorn is owned by a German company.

Not a problem whilst we are still in the EU.

Better start stockpiling popcorn

[WTFH]

Bad news guys, the UK's best selling popcorn is owned by a German company.

[Whorty]

We are going to need more popcorn!

There, sir, we totally agree

[Yorkie62]

Very unlikely as the ERG haven't got the balls to bring down the government. And they certainly won't bring it down to force a GE, knowing the sh1tstorm a no-deal Brexit will cause. Imagine a GE during all the chaos of crashing out; the ERG and UKIP would be blamed and their candidates (along with the Tories) would be destroyed at the ballot box ensuring a Labour government (don't forget, 75% of Labour voters DO NOT want Brexit so 3/4 of the Labour vote is safe).

No, more likely is ERG support May's deal and short extension. The ERG will try to exert their influence during teh next stages of negotiations.

But then, anything could happen so it's still

We are going to need more popcorn!

[Whorty]

If a sitting government loses a no confidence vote ( such a vote is a possibility should TM deal get voted down again next week) two week are set aside to form a new government. this wold leave no deal to happen by default on March 29th.

Interestingly, this strategy does require Labour MPs to vote for a no confidence motion in the house knowing full well that it would lead to no deal.

Whilst the ERG might not actually vote in favour of a no confidence vote they could abstain which if labour voted for would be enough.

All is fair in love and politics.

Very unlikely as the ERG haven't got the balls to bring down the government. And they certainly won't bring it down to force a GE, knowing the sh1tstorm a no-deal Brexit will cause. Imagine a GE during all the chaos of crashing out; the ERG and UKIP would be blamed and their candidates (along with the Tories) would be destroyed at the ballot box ensuring a Labour government (don't forget, 75% of Labour voters DO NOT want Brexit so 3/4 of the Labour vote is safe).

No, more likely is ERG support May's deal and short extension. The ERG will try to exert their influence during teh next stages of negotiations.

But then, anything could happen so it's still

[TestMangler]

I thnk it's obvious what's about to happen. The hard brexiters will get 2/3 of what they want as may goes for a WTF Brexit.

[BlasterBates]

There may well be a no deal, and then the government goes down. This would be a huge boon to Labour as a GE is held with a no deal backdrop and patients dying like flies in the hospitals whilst Brexiteers gloat on the sidelines.

I doubt it will happen however.

[stonehenge]

In the mean time the clock kept on ticking and the 29th March kept getting ever closer meaning that the 'grown ups' in the big brown building who decided that they didn't want to have nothing might end up with nothing.

They are such a shambles, that nothing would surprise me.

[Yorkie62]

You mean that democracy is dead and that democratic votes count for nothing?

In the words of a pro-Brexit, pro-Trump consultant yesterday (which he said in a meeting with the ClientCo) “the current lot in the Houses of Parliament are all socialists, there’s no Conservatives left, they should all be put in jail and the building just turned into a mosque”
One of the client managers said “why a mosque”, to which the reply was “Because that’s what this country has become because of the traitors”

So, he says the EU is responsible for the spread of Islam and both are evil.

What are you smoking today because ypou are spouting absolute b*ll*cks?

Have you not understood anything that has gone on in the past 3 days.

I'll try to explain it to you in language that a 3 year old would understand.

On Tuesday the 'grown ups' in the big brown building in London decided that they didn't like what Mrs May had to offer them, so they decided that the next day they would decide if they liked not having anything at all. They decided that they didn't like that either, but because a long time ago (2 years) they had decided they perhaps nothing might not be so bad afterall the new decision not to have nothing meant that unless they could decide on something before 29th march they would indeed have nothing. So they decided that they would come back to the big brown building the next day and decide to ask 27 other countries if they could delay not having nothing until such time as they could decide on what they did want. In the mean time Mrs May said she would let them decide if the really, really, really, didn't want what she had to offer, but they would have to come back to the big brown building next week to decide that. In the mean time the clock kept on ticking and the 29th March kept getting ever closer meaning that the 'grown ups' in the big brown building who decided that they didn't want to have nothing might end up with nothing.

HTH

[Zigenare]

You mean that democracy is dead and that democratic votes count for nothing?

In the words of a pro-Brexit, pro-Trump consultant yesterday (which he said in a meeting with the ClientCo) “the current lot in the Houses of Parliament are all socialists, there’s no Conservatives left, they should all be put in jail and the building just turned into a mosque”
One of the client managers said “why a mosque”, to which the reply was “Because that’s what this country has become because of the traitors”

So, he says the EU is responsible for the spread of Islam and both are evil.

Pass his log on credentials to NAT, he'll do the needful.

[WTFH]

Voted for what exactly?

The vote against no deal counts for nothing.

The vote to extend is only a request to the EU.

Currently as we stand today, on 29th march 2019 we leave with No Deal.

You mean that democracy is dead and that democratic votes count for nothing?

In the words of a pro-Brexit, pro-Trump consultant yesterday (which he said in a meeting with the ClientCo) “the current lot in the Houses of Parliament are all socialists, there’s no Conservatives left, they should all be put in jail and the building just turned into a mosque”
One of the client managers said “why a mosque”, to which the reply was “Because that’s what this country has become because of the traitors”

So, he says the EU is responsible for the spread of Islam and both are evil.

[stonehenge]

More likely outcome is ERG climbing down next week when May brings her deal back for a 3rd vote.

They may not like her deal, but they probably dislike the idea of a long A50 extension even more.

[Yorkie62]

Of course the ERG could try to collapse the government, there’s money to be made so it’s in their interests.

But would collapsing the government bring a no deal Brexit?
No it wouldn’t.

The two things are not linked, as MPs have overwhelmingly voted.

Voted for what exactly?

The vote against no deal counts for nothing.

The vote to extend is only a request to the EU.

Currently as we stand today, on 29th march 2019 we leave with No Deal.

[WTFH]

Of course the ERG could try to collapse the government, there’s money to be made so it’s in their interests.

But would collapsing the government bring a no deal Brexit?
No it wouldn’t.

The two things are not linked, as MPs have overwhelmingly voted.