Reply to: UK manufacturers panic

[Bean]

Chin up! That's the spirit.

Huzzah, more meaningless drivel. Keep it up.

[Old Greg]

"Furthermore, Sonova is in the process of integrating certain services for all of its hearing instrument brands at a single location each in Germany and in Canada in order to further optimize the footprint of its operations."

"The measures are being implemented in the UK, Germany and Canada and are expected to result in a combined reduction in workforce in these markets by about 250 employees."

Employees - 14,242
About us | Sonova International

Well, some of it, but only those at Sonova know how much - as they've only specified combined reduction over 3 countries in their press release... luckily for those Sonova, it's only 1.75% of the global workforce over the 3 countries and will save them 7 million a year once complete.

What do you mean Germany & Canada aren't also exiting the EU?

Surely their job losses are Brexit-related!!!!????

What do you mean organisations restructure periodically to try and increase profit?

Are you somehow saying that organisations have no loyalty/affiliation to the countries they operate in and are only in it for the profit?

Wow, you've such a clever manfish

Chin up! That's the spirit.

[Bean]

Every little hurts.

What do you mean Germany & Canada aren't also exiting the EU?

Surely their job losses are Brexit-related!!!!????

What do you mean organisations restructure periodically to try and increase profit?

Are you somehow saying that organisations have no loyalty/affiliation to the countries they operate in and are only in it for the profit?

Wow, you've such a clever manfish

[Old Greg]

"Furthermore, Sonova is in the process of integrating certain services for all of its hearing instrument brands at a single location each in Germany and in Canada in order to further optimize the footprint of its operations."

"The measures are being implemented in the UK, Germany and Canada and are expected to result in a combined reduction in workforce in these markets by about 250 employees."

Employees - 14,242
About us | Sonova International

Well, some of it, but only those at Sonova know how much - as they've only specified combined reduction over 3 countries in their press release... luckily for those Sonova, it's only 1.75% of the global workforce over the 3 countries and will save them 7 million a year once complete.

Every little hurts.

[Bean]

Nothing to do with Brexit.

In order to mitigate general risk within our supply chain and also with a view towards the potential imminent withdrawal of the UK from the European Union, Sonova intends to shift certain services and manufacturing activities provided by its UK service center in Warrington to its Regional Center in Spain as well as to its operation center in Vietnam.

Sonova to optimize local operations in selected markets | Sonova International

"Furthermore, Sonova is in the process of integrating certain services for all of its hearing instrument brands at a single location each in Germany and in Canada in order to further optimize the footprint of its operations."

"The measures are being implemented in the UK, Germany and Canada and are expected to result in a combined reduction in workforce in these markets by about 250 employees."

Employees - 14,242
About us | Sonova International

Well, some of it, but only those at Sonova know how much - as they've only specified combined reduction over 3 countries in their press release... luckily for those Sonova, it's only 1.75% of the global workforce over the 3 countries and will save them 7 million a year once complete.

[Old Greg]

Nothing to do with Brexit.

In order to mitigate general risk within our supply chain and also with a view towards the potential imminent withdrawal of the UK from the European Union, Sonova intends to shift certain services and manufacturing activities provided by its UK service center in Warrington to its Regional Center in Spain as well as to its operation center in Vietnam.

Sonova to optimize local operations in selected markets | Sonova International

[Zigenare]

Toyota also showing foresight:

Toyota plan to pull out of the UK

“If the business environment becomes very difficult to operate, of course those types of decisions should be on the agenda,” Johan van Zyl, the Japanese company’s head of Europe, told reporters at the Geneva Motor Show on Wednesday. “But hopefully we will be able to avoid” a withdrawal.

Sounds sensible, after all, they're not running a charity.

[BlasterBates]

Toyota also showing foresight:

Toyota plan to pull out of the UK

[Old Greg]

Honda shows the way.

Exactly. Zero import tariffs from Japan into EU. Unknown import tariffs from UK into EU. First Honda vehicle factory closure in 71 year history. Can't put a price on sovereignty.

[WTFH]

And yet any company who makes Brexit preparations is then accused of Project Fear

You mean like Dyson?

[Old Greg]

And yet any company who makes Brexit preparations is then accused of Project Fear

Not if it is investing in additional jam production capacity.

[BlasterBates]

Honda shows the way.

[chopper]

Nothing but poor management. They have known for two years that the UK was leaving the EU. Any failure to plan for all eventualities is nothing but a failure of the leadership of those organisations that are now complaining. They should have got their heads out of their ar*ses long ago and done a full risk assessment and had contingency plans. IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

And yet any company who makes Brexit preparations is then accused of Project Fear

[b0redom]

Nah Hazard management is within safety management

Risk management is about threats, vulnerabilities and controls

Risk management is about removing or mitigating risk. No one who is responsible for that would attempt to incur extra risk without some potential reward. All of the 'land of milk and honey' rewards that were on offer in the leave campaign seem to have evaporated, so what's the up side?

I realise that both campaigns were appallingly contested and there were, to put it kindly, mistruths on both sides, but falling out of things like Gallileo, EurAtom and drug licensing and trade agreements which weren't even mentioned would seem to be massive risks/downsides, and nobody is suggesting any upsides.

[b0redom]

Perhaps you should ask the remainers which crystal ball the are using to claim any of the above statemetns are absolutely and without any doubt true, because the truth is no body actually knows what will be come Brexit, because amongst other things it depends on the conditions of our departure.

Of course nothing is 100% certain, but:

An unavoidable, and politically unpalatable border in Ireland.
No one has come up with any firm policy on how this would be avoided except for some nebulous 'with technology' statement.

Additional tariffs on goods entering and leaving the UK
....are inevitable under a no deal Brexit, and likely under most other forms I've seen discussed.[/I]

The clowns currently responsible for the EU negotiations being responsible for future trade deals
Are you trying to suggest that a myriad of trade negotiators are hiding somewhere, ready to spring into action in 4 weeks?

Roaming charges being reintroduced for mobiles/data in Europe
This has already been announced by some of the mobile operators. Elimination of roaming charges was one of the things the EU helped to abolish.

Dismantling of workers rights, food and regulatory standards
This has already been announced today. The government are not moving existing legislation wholesale to UK law, rather they are taking a view on what is appropriate and what isn't.

So these all seem, at the very least possible, if not likely to happen. I'm yet to see you offer a single positive possible takeaway from any form of Brexit.