Reply to: Deep State Plot to thwart Brexit

[Old Greg]

The fact that you’re posting it, without any thought or observation on it at all, just proves what a sheep you really are.

A sheep in NAAFI clothing.

[meridian]

Well if my response has kickstarted your thinking process, however pedestrian, that has to be seen as progress.

The fact that you’re posting it, without any thought or observation on it at all, just proves what a sheep you really are.

[shaunbhoy]

Minford? Christ, you’re thicker than I thought.

Well if my response has kickstarted your thinking process, however pedestrian, that has to be seen as progress.

[Old Greg]

Yes. With No Deal being better than this Bad Deal.

Bring it on..............

EU to lose GBP500bn and UK to gain GBP640bn in no-deal Brexit, economist claims

The same Patrick Minford who said:

Over time, if we left the EU, it seems likely that we would mostly eliminate manufacturing, leaving mainly industries such as design, marketing and hi-tech. But this shouldn’t scare us.

Around half of young adults now go to university, ending up in professions such as finance or law, while the making of things such as car parts or carpentry has hugely shrunk — but there will always be jobs for people without sophisticated skills.

[AtW]

That’s like 200 bln jacket potatoes, with two fillings

[meridian]

Yes. With No Deal being better than this Bad Deal.

Bring it on..............

EU to lose GBP500bn and UK to gain GBP640bn in no-deal Brexit, economist claims

Minford? Christ, you’re thicker than I thought.

No further comment.

[shaunbhoy]

Do you actually want to Brexit,

Yes. With No Deal being better than this Bad Deal.

Bring it on..............

EU to lose GBP500bn and UK to gain GBP640bn in no-deal Brexit, economist claims

[meridian]

Er the salient fact that we will have no unilateral right to exit this potentially indefinite limbo unless those nice people in the EU decide that we can?

Now that might not bother you as a self-confessed Remainer, but it is a red line for the majority of people.

I’ve already written why this is not a problem - we’ve had two years of Brexiters claiming that there are solutions. Time to put up or shut up.

Do you actually want to Brexit, or do you just want to complain for the rest of your life about how you nearly had it but it just wasn’t perfect enough?

[Old Greg]

Bollox, if the EU want a border between Ireland and Northern Ireland, they can get the Irish to put it up and Police it themselves.

What happened to taking back control of the borders?

[Zigenare]

I do.

I'd prefer to Remain, of course, but if we're going to leave then this is the only agreement that works. Freedom of Movement for Brits will be stopped, the settlement of obligations is done, and the UK will have 2 years in a transition to implement the much-promised technological solution for the border and to negotiate the future trade relationship with the EU as well as the 750+ other agreements world wide.


What's not to like, if you're a Brexiter?

Bollox, if the EU want a border between Ireland and Northern Ireland, they can get the Irish to put it up and Police it themselves.

[shaunbhoy]

if we're going to leave then this is the only agreement that works. Freedom of Movement for Brits will be stopped, the settlement of obligations is done, and the UK will have 2 years in a transition to implement the much-promised technological solution for the border and to negotiate the future trade relationship with the EU as well as the 750+ other agreements world wide.


What's not to like, if you're a Brexiter?

Er the salient fact that we will have no unilateral right to exit this potentially indefinite limbo unless those nice people in the EU decide that we can?

Now that might not bother you as a self-confessed Remainer, but it is a red line for the majority of people.

[meridian]

Does anyone?

I do.

I'd prefer to Remain, of course, but if we're going to leave then this is the only agreement that works. Freedom of Movement for Brits will be stopped, the settlement of obligations is done, and the UK will have 2 years in a transition to implement the much-promised technological solution for the border and to negotiate the future trade relationship with the EU as well as the 750+ other agreements world wide.


What's not to like, if you're a Brexiter?

[Whorty]

I didn't.



MY MPs?

You didn't, but OPM did and you liked his post which implied you supported what he said.

"your MPs" as in leave supporting MPs.

[shaunbhoy]

I can understand why people don't, but then why call MPs who don't support the deal childish losers,

I didn't.

Your MPs need to stand up and be counted, rather than being cowards.

MY MPs?

[Whorty]

Does anyone?

I can understand why people don't, but then why call MPs who don't support the deal childish losers, even though there are 'winners' not willing to support May either?

You and others may support a 'no deal' but that is not the majority view in the country or parliament. You're gonna have to get over that and suck it up. If 'no deal' was the 'will of the people' they would have voted in UKIP in 2017, but the UKIP vote bombed, along with no deal as a preferred option (although we may still crash out anyway as May and her cronies would rather force that on the country rather than negotiate).

I' 'meh' for any deal apart from crash out no deal. They'll all be worse than what we have today so I can't give two hoots about any of them

As was noted earlier though, there are as many flavours of brexit in parliament as there are leave MPs. Question is, which one will they finally get behind. Your MPs need to stand up and be counted, rather than being cowards.